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Mitchell, it's my pleasure to be here today with you
in the Collège des Bernardins.

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You've played a key role in the success of Mozilla
and its main product, Firefox.

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So, Mitchell, this notion of

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working for greater benefits, not just for capitalist interests,

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is very strong.

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From the general public's perspective, Firefox had a fantastic mission

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which was to protect our privacy.

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Yes.

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And a belief that open processes are important for security,

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for society to understand, for public benefit.

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I think the structural piece has to
be addressed because you can have,

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as we actually do, many employees
deeply invested in Silicon Valley

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who long and strive in their work to make things better.

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That's a very legitimate,

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at least in my view, of the people I live and work with,

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a very legitimate and heartfelt desire,

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working within the structure of the market.

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And so, you can see some changes now,

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You know, in the United States, for

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a long period, there's been

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the Chicago School, with its view that it is

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a dereliction of duty for a director of an organization

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to think about anything other than maximizing financial return.

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Right.

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And so, I think of that as the equivalent

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of making our corporations psychopaths,

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because when you

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encounter a human with no empathy, no

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compassion, thinking only of what feels good for them.

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What is best for me?

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That's a sociopath or a psychopath.

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That's not a healthy person.

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And that used to be, and still is, that way.

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Like, you have directors, well-meaning, thinking, "Well, can I

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consider something else than maximum return?"

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So, that's an unhealthy system for a society, right?

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It's not an Adam Smith-like mandate.

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But so, you start to see some of that
changing in the United States.

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And so, the B Corp movement is now an
accepted way to say, actually,

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we might care about the environment, or we might
care about the community

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we live in, or we might care about democracy,

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we might care about something else.

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Thank you for this, Mitchell.