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Kate, Rich, we are now a week
into COP28.

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What are your impressions so
far?

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What have you made of it?

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What are you excited about,
Kate?

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Yeah.

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So one thing I've been
reflecting on is, you know,

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Google has been attending COPs
for quite some time, really with

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a dual purpose, first to endorse
strong outcomes to the

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negotiations, bringing that
voice of business.

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And also to share what are we
seeing from a technology

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perspective.

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How can technology accelerate
progress on climate action?

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And frankly, for me personally,
I've been working on COPs since

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2009, and I've been struck by
not only the presence of

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technology companies, but also
just of business in general.

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And I think that's so crucial
because a lot of the

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conversations are tough

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right now. We're off track.

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The stocktake is not where we
want it to be, but business is

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really coming forward with
solutions.

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And I was on stage yesterday
with the CEO of Schneider

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Electric.

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We were announcing a new
consortium where we're bringing

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together the semiconductor
supply chain, that whole value

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chain, so we can drive forward
decarbonization of electricity

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together through business
solutions.

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So I've been finding that really
heartening.

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And then of course we've been
talking a lot about AI, about

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the unlock opportunity that AI
has to accelerate the existing

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solutions

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we have, up to 10% emissions
reductions by 2030.

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So just to build on Kate's
points, I found this first week

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to be really encouraging and not
just my own impressions, but

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talking to so many across
government, business, NGOs. The

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number of important agreements
on loss and damage, on climate

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finance, on food and
agriculture, on heavy-emitting

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industries, on methane...

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and these are meaningful things.

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And I think we see in this first
week when we bring the whole

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community together, we bring
government, we bring business,

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we bring NGOs and
philanthropists, and we put them

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together.

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And we don't try to get to
unanimity.

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We try to get to a strong
coalition of the willing.

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We can really push quite
substantially.

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And it's also an enormous
opportunity for learning.

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I don't know.

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I feel like every day I'm
finding stuff I didn't know.

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I think the challenge, if we're
honest, is the next week is when

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all...nearly all of us leave the
room and we're at the government

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negotiators, which we know has a
lot of history and a lot of

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challenges,

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and whether they're going to be
able to set aside the

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differences that have really
caused us to come up short and

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the past 27 COPs and to get the
kind of breakthroughs in

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collaboration.

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That part we don't know.

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But I think we can feel really
good about the way the whole

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global community is coming
together to take on these

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challenges so far.

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And I think that's reflected in
the mood we're seeing.

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I know it's about community and
working together and

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collaboration.

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Kate, there, spoke about the
appetite of business.

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Now, I haven't been covering COP
as long as you have, Kate, but

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it does to me seem like this
year there's a real push for a

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bit from business.

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Is that, is that what you're
seeing there, Rich?

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Yeah, I I think we started in
Glasgow by recognizing that to

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get the kind of action we
wanted, it couldn't just be

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governments.

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It's business and government
that have to step forward and

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step forward and step up.

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I think this one is taking that
to a whole different level, and

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that's encouraging.

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It doesn't mean though we're
anywhere close to declaring

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victory.

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I mean the things that we see
written here...you know going to

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regenerative agriculture three
times the size of France by

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2030, that's a big commitment.

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But now we've got to make it
real.

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And that's going to take policy.

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It's going to take businesses
across the entire value chain.

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It's going to take a focus on
the farmer and really making

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this work for farmers.

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They have to be the power behind
this.

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That's a ton of hard work.

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But I do think these COPs, by
drawing the whole community

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together, have created a
different spirit of energy in

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this first week of COP.

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And now we have to hope that
translates into the second week

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of COP.

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OK.

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You've both been talking a lot,
together actually, and with

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other people about AI and the
role it has to play. What's been

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coming out of those
conversations?

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Yeah, I think, Rich, you know,
one thing that I found really

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noteworthy about the discussions
we've been in is that AI isn't

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the solution unto itself.

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It's all about how AI can
accelerate the existing

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solutions we have.

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And we know that's so critical
in what we call this decisive

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decade for climate action.

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You know we're seeing from the
stock take is we're not on track

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for that 43% reduction we need
by 2030.

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But AI can help us to
accelerate.

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It can help us to better predict
wind energy 36 hour in advance

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to make it more valuable.

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It can help us reduce contrails
from aviation in ways that could

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be deployed this decade.

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It can enable us to better
sequence traffic lights in

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cities to reduce emissions and
improve air quality.

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So I think that's really what's
giving people some hope is

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seeing that there are real
practical solutions.

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They build on the existing
technology stack, and they can

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accelerate progress, which is
what we really need to do right

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now.

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So, I couldn't agree more.

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The other thing for me that's
been energizing is our report

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had created a lot of examples
that we had identified.

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But whenever we go to these
sessions, we pick up new stuff

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that we didn't hear.

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Johan Rockström on the panel we
were on talking about how AI was

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going to improve climate science
and make it more able to know

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what the real impacts were going
to be.

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And, I mean, this is all about
the science and getting that

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science to the next level.

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AI is going to be an incredibly
important tool for that.

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And so I found those other
examples that we hadn't

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identified, you know, as
energizing as the ones that the,

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that you and our teams I guess
had identified absolutely.

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And another insight that we got
is it's even reaching the

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negotiation halls.

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So we heard that there might be
mention of the opportunity for

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AI in the text of the agreement.

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So, we're going to watch that
space too.

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That would be really fantastic.

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Indeed.

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We will.

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Thank you both so much as
always.

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Thank you.