WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.640 There are actually too many players out here, right? 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:05.920 There are more than 250 retail media networks. 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:06.280 Wow. 00:00:06.560 --> 00:00:10.320 And it's really, really hard for an advertiser or an agency 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.880 to really know where to best spend the 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:14.560 money, how to best optimize. 00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:17.960 We're joined by Mark from PayPal. 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:18.760 Welcome. 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:24.800 What would it take to move retail and commerce media from working to really, 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.000 really working for for brands? 00:00:27.200 --> 00:00:28.480 I think it's a great question, right? 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.960 And I think one of the challenges in retail media is that there are actually 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:36.360 too many players out here, right? 00:00:36.360 --> 00:00:39.640 There are more than 250 retail media networks. 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:39.920 Wow. 00:00:40.360 --> 00:00:44.360 And it's really, really hard for an advertiser or an agency 00:00:44.360 --> 00:00:46.560 to really know where to best spend 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:48.240 the money, how to best optimize. 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.680 And I do think that's where people can provide a tremendous amount of value 00:00:52.680 --> 00:00:54.720 to both the advertisers and the agencies. 00:00:55.120 --> 00:01:00.400 PayPal has data from 30 million merchants with 400 million users on our platform. 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.560 We see about 25% of all global commerce. 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.560 So we do actually sit across all the retailers, right? 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:11.720 And we can become this kind of one-stop solution for both brands and agencies, 00:01:11.720 --> 00:01:16.120 which will enable them to do proper kind of media planning, 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.680 or retail media planning, and retail media activation 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.400 in a holistic way across all these kind of retailers. 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:28.680 What is it that makes a retailer brand partnership more than just a transcation? 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.240 When they really work, what makes them strategic? 00:01:31.240 --> 00:01:35.160 We speak a lot about in Cannes about the conversion of the funnel, 00:01:35.160 --> 00:01:37.600 It's about how do you bring awareness and, 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:40.000 and the transaction pieces more closer together? 00:01:40.320 --> 00:01:42.400 And so for example, from PayPal perspective, 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.000 we launch what we call our Storefront Ads early this week 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:52.200 And it basically enables the consumer to transact in the ad unit. 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:56.720 And it also means from a merchant perspective that a merchant can now have 00:01:56.720 --> 00:01:58.800 his storefront wherever the consumer is. 00:01:58.960 --> 00:02:01.960 The consumer doesn't need to go to a specific website of the merchant. 00:02:02.320 --> 00:02:07.560 And instead the consumer might be on the on a new site, maybe on a sports site. 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:11.760 And yet he can be exposed to the merchant storefront and can then transact within 00:02:11.760 --> 00:02:14.720 the ad unit without ever leaving the ad unit. 00:02:14.720 --> 00:02:18.560 And I do think with doing that, we’re really bring together on the one hand, 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:22.760 the opportunities to create awareness with a, let's say, CTV ad or a display ad. 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.920 And at the same time, you bring the transaction opportunity 00:02:25.920 --> 00:02:29.440 into the ad unit, you are taking friction out of the process, 00:02:30.040 --> 00:02:34.600 And I think that should actually help to propel commerce media. 00:02:34.760 --> 00:02:37.640 How easy is it to plan for the full funnel? 00:02:37.640 --> 00:02:40.160 I mean, at the moment are tools and teams still 00:02:40.160 --> 00:02:40.960 too fragmented? 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:44.480 They are fragmented, but I do think they are coming together 00:02:44.480 --> 00:02:45.960 and they have to come together, right? 00:02:46.320 --> 00:02:47.800 And I think in the past, you were right there. 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.240 It's kind of the brand team in one corner, there's a performance team in the other corner, right? 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:57.080 But data basically brings both teams together as well as the creative. 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.960 And so from a PayPal perspective, given that we have all the transaction data 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.480 across all the merchants. We can then provide, 00:03:05.480 --> 00:03:10.920 closed loop attribution for advertisers and help them to 00:03:10.920 --> 00:03:15.800 target awareness campaign space on transaction data as opposed to on 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.280 region frequency or demographics, right. 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.920 And that means that the branding campaigns become much, 00:03:20.920 --> 00:03:23.280 much more efficient and effective at this in the past. 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:28.600 The other thing which is also interesting is that you are now starting to think about new KPIs. 00:03:28.600 --> 00:03:33.000 In many cases the CFO who's actually the side of budgets. 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:35.400 He or she thinks about market share. 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.480 He or she wants to understand, is the market share actually growing if 00:03:39.480 --> 00:03:41.400 I'm giving the CMO a certain budget? 00:03:42.040 --> 00:03:44.680 And that means you have to have an understanding, of course, 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.760 all the merchants where your products get sold, 00:03:46.760 --> 00:03:49.000 what is your market share and the data do we have? 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.000 Because again, we have the view across all these merchants. 00:03:52.040 --> 00:03:55.160 And once a budget is defined, you can then in the second step, 00:03:55.160 --> 00:03:58.840 then go to the CMO and say, OK, how do you best allocate a budget across 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:00.760 the merchants to, on the one hand, drive 00:04:00.760 --> 00:04:03.160 awareness and to all the drive transactions. 00:04:03.160 --> 00:04:06.000 And that's where things like a Storefront Ads plays a good role. 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.920 So we can help basically the advertiser and the agencies on the definition of the 00:04:10.920 --> 00:04:15.600 budget and then on the execution of the budget and bringing together both the 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.920 awareness campaign and the performance campaign in one single ad unit. 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.480 Well, Mark, thanks very much for joining us here to 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:24.560 talk us through all of that. 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:25.480 It's been a real pleasure. 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:32.000 Thank you so much for having me.