WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.190 So good morning, Rahul. 2 00:00:02.190 --> 00:00:05.040 Many thanks for being with us today. 3 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:06.690 Well, Lucas, Marc, it's great to be here. 4 00:00:06.690 --> 00:00:08.160 Thanks for having me. 5 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:09.630 And it's a real pleasure to come here 6 00:00:09.630 --> 00:00:11.220 and chat about data and DDP with you. 7 00:00:11.220 --> 00:00:13.920 We as BCG, have developed an approach 8 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:15.030 which we call DDP. 9 00:00:15.030 --> 00:00:18.750 It's the data and digital platform transformation approach 10 00:00:18.750 --> 00:00:20.970 with which we help those kind of customers 11 00:00:20.970 --> 00:00:22.860 that really want to put data out there 12 00:00:22.860 --> 00:00:24.300 to accelerate their journey. 13 00:00:24.300 --> 00:00:25.530 Data's really the foundation 14 00:00:25.530 --> 00:00:27.690 on which AI can drive insights 15 00:00:27.690 --> 00:00:29.040 and differentiated outcomes. 16 00:00:29.040 --> 00:00:31.890 It's really all about helping our customers 17 00:00:31.890 --> 00:00:33.960 take advantage of AI, put it to work, 18 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:36.090 and use it to drive differentiated outcomes. 19 00:00:36.090 --> 00:00:37.740 So creating value for the customer 20 00:00:37.740 --> 00:00:41.670 can be separated in time or place from actually capturing. 21 00:00:41.670 --> 00:00:43.980 If you look, for example, at Amazon Prime, 22 00:00:43.980 --> 00:00:46.530 what were your experiences with this creation 23 00:00:46.530 --> 00:00:47.730 versus capture concept? 24 00:00:47.730 --> 00:00:48.780 So the Prime innovation 25 00:00:48.780 --> 00:00:50.700 was creating a subscription fee 26 00:00:50.700 --> 00:00:52.590 that then eliminated shipping costs. 27 00:00:52.590 --> 00:00:55.800 And so this led to people shopping more and more at Amazon, 28 00:00:55.800 --> 00:00:57.690 it made the purchase experience better. 29 00:00:57.690 --> 00:00:58.650 And you're absolutely right, 30 00:00:58.650 --> 00:01:01.020 we're looking to instrument all of the interactions we have 31 00:01:01.020 --> 00:01:03.720 from the emails that customers open, the things they browse, 32 00:01:03.720 --> 00:01:05.430 the things they buy, the shows they watch. 33 00:01:05.430 --> 00:01:08.820 So you have customers seeing value, that drives traffic, 34 00:01:08.820 --> 00:01:11.580 that in turn drives purchases for our suppliers. 35 00:01:11.580 --> 00:01:13.860 And then that growth allows us to get efficiency 36 00:01:13.860 --> 00:01:16.050 in our system while still creating a win-win 37 00:01:16.050 --> 00:01:17.820 for ourselves and our suppliers. 38 00:01:17.820 --> 00:01:19.230 So this concept of DDP, 39 00:01:19.230 --> 00:01:22.260 of focusing on customer value creation, 40 00:01:22.260 --> 00:01:23.520 instrumenting what you're doing 41 00:01:23.520 --> 00:01:25.620 and then using that to drive a win-win 42 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:27.120 from a value capture perspective 43 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.550 can really set you up for long-term growth 44 00:01:29.550 --> 00:01:31.350 and long-term customer value creation. 45 00:01:31.350 --> 00:01:33.870 At BCG, we think that the only way 46 00:01:33.870 --> 00:01:37.740 to realize that combination of value capture 47 00:01:37.740 --> 00:01:41.580 is to do it through a horizontal, layered architecture. 48 00:01:41.580 --> 00:01:45.090 The basic foundational idea of DDP. 49 00:01:45.090 --> 00:01:48.720 What does putting data at the core really mean at Amazon? 50 00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:52.200 So having that data available to everyone who needs it 51 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.050 in a safe, secure, well-governed way is absolutely critical. 52 00:01:55.050 --> 00:01:56.850 I think when you have good governance, 53 00:01:56.850 --> 00:01:58.680 you can actually set people free to innovate 54 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.630 because you're confident that only the right people 55 00:02:00.630 --> 00:02:02.610 will see the right data for the right purpose. 56 00:02:02.610 --> 00:02:05.130 And that in turn enables our individual business units 57 00:02:05.130 --> 00:02:06.390 to build their own analytic 58 00:02:06.390 --> 00:02:08.730 and machine learning and AI capabilities, 59 00:02:08.730 --> 00:02:10.470 all operating off the same playbook 60 00:02:10.470 --> 00:02:13.200 and augmenting that with their own business unit data. 61 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:15.570 Each individual team owns their data, 62 00:02:15.570 --> 00:02:17.190 makes it available through APIs, 63 00:02:17.190 --> 00:02:18.930 and understands who's allowed to use it. 64 00:02:18.930 --> 00:02:21.480 But we also have certain assets that are centralized 65 00:02:21.480 --> 00:02:23.940 to allow us to get that source of truth. 66 00:02:23.940 --> 00:02:25.260 And it's the combination of these 67 00:02:25.260 --> 00:02:26.850 with great governance in between 68 00:02:26.850 --> 00:02:28.530 and the ability to discover data 69 00:02:28.530 --> 00:02:31.290 that lives around the company in this distributed fashion 70 00:02:31.290 --> 00:02:33.180 that allows our teams to go fast 71 00:02:33.180 --> 00:02:35.640 and go independently while still being cohesive 72 00:02:35.640 --> 00:02:37.920 in terms of trying to achieve customer value 73 00:02:37.920 --> 00:02:40.020 and capturing some value for the company. 74 00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:42.180 What we've learned is that, in the end, 75 00:02:42.180 --> 00:02:44.100 you would like to mirror this value creation, 76 00:02:44.100 --> 00:02:46.860 value capturing ID also within the tech stack. 77 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:50.520 So our DDP actually recognizes what we call the layers. 78 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.410 You know, the Layered Modular Architecture 79 00:02:52.410 --> 00:02:54.960 is absolutely at the core of how we think about building 80 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.120 and creating these interesting customer experiences. 81 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.690 And so our Amazon business, for example, on Prime Day, 82 00:03:00.690 --> 00:03:03.030 can run trillions of transactions 83 00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:05.220 on some of the databases that we offer. 84 00:03:05.220 --> 00:03:06.540 And we don't need to know the details 85 00:03:06.540 --> 00:03:07.560 of what they're operating on, 86 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:10.320 we really understand the APIs that they're interacting with 87 00:03:10.320 --> 00:03:13.710 and we focus on their availability and performance and SLEs. 88 00:03:13.710 --> 00:03:16.860 So we talk about multidisciplinary teams 89 00:03:16.860 --> 00:03:18.840 organized in organizational platforms, 90 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:20.910 mirrored to the business. 91 00:03:20.910 --> 00:03:22.710 How does that work within episode? 92 00:03:22.710 --> 00:03:25.020 We've had the concept of the two pizza team 93 00:03:25.020 --> 00:03:25.853 for a long time. 94 00:03:25.853 --> 00:03:27.240 The idea comes from the fact that teams 95 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.250 should be relatively small 96 00:03:29.250 --> 00:03:32.430 and so this allows them to be cohesive, to move fast, 97 00:03:32.430 --> 00:03:33.870 and then we imbue those teams 98 00:03:33.870 --> 00:03:37.440 with a very clear ownership mandate, so you own your area. 99 00:03:37.440 --> 00:03:38.670 You have to go to your customers, 100 00:03:38.670 --> 00:03:40.680 understand what they need, make sure you deliver it, 101 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.260 and ask for the resources that you need to deliver that. 102 00:03:43.260 --> 00:03:45.060 In order to conclude, please give us 103 00:03:45.060 --> 00:03:49.950 a snapshot on how you see Amazon and AWS evolving 104 00:03:49.950 --> 00:03:51.720 in the coming months and years. 105 00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:53.190 It's important to focus on things 106 00:03:53.190 --> 00:03:54.023 that will stay the same. 107 00:03:54.023 --> 00:03:56.310 If you invest in those, you'll always be relevant. 108 00:03:56.310 --> 00:03:58.050 And so on our e-commerce business, 109 00:03:58.050 --> 00:03:59.640 we talk about the need for always having 110 00:03:59.640 --> 00:04:01.230 great selection, great prices. 111 00:04:01.230 --> 00:04:03.480 And on the AWS side, we really want to deliver 112 00:04:03.480 --> 00:04:06.840 top-notch security, operational performance, 113 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.150 great value, and great price performance. 114 00:04:09.150 --> 00:04:11.340 I really am focused on helping our customers 115 00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:13.500 get value for their business 116 00:04:13.500 --> 00:04:15.780 from AI, machine learning, and data. 117 00:04:15.780 --> 00:04:17.880 And so it's really about finding a business outcome 118 00:04:17.880 --> 00:04:20.370 they're looking to drive, and then using AI and data 119 00:04:20.370 --> 00:04:23.040 as a force multiplier to achieve that outcome 120 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:24.450 quickly and effectively. 121 00:04:24.450 --> 00:04:27.030 It's data that's gonna be the differentiator, 122 00:04:27.030 --> 00:04:29.700 and using ideas like DDP to connect that data 123 00:04:29.700 --> 00:04:32.070 into AI technology is the way we think customers 124 00:04:32.070 --> 00:04:34.200 are gonna be successful, and we're really focused on that. 125 00:04:34.200 --> 00:04:35.033 Very inspiring. 126 00:04:35.033 --> 00:04:36.480 Thank you very much, Rahul. 127 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:37.633 Thanks, great to be here. 128 00:04:37.633 --> 00:04:40.300 (lively music)