WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.480 Hello, my name is Yasushi Sasaki. 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.200 I'm the BCG System Leader of Northeast Asia, responsible for Japan and Korea. 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.120 Today I'm in Davos, participating in WEF, 4 00:00:11.840 --> 00:00:15.080 together with our distinguished guest, Higuchi-San, 5 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:19.120 the Chief Executive Officer of Panasonic Connect. Higuchi-San, 6 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:20.560 thank you very much for joining us. 7 00:00:20.560 --> 00:00:21.520 Thank you for having me. 8 00:00:21.880 --> 00:00:25.720 Higuchi-San is a very famous, well-known business leader in Japan. 9 00:00:26.040 --> 00:00:30.280 He started his career in Panasonic, then went to Harvard Business School, 10 00:00:30.400 --> 00:00:32.320 joined BCG, this is important, 11 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:37.560 and then led many various important business leader positions like the 12 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:42.960 President of Microsoft in Japan, and rejoined Panasonic in 2017. 13 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:47.560 So he's a really distinguished business leader in Japan. So Higuchi-San, 14 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.440 this is your first time in Davos? That's what I heard. 15 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:51.440 Yes. This is my first time, 16 00:00:51.440 --> 00:00:56.160 and this is also the first participation as Panasonic, so I'm so excited. 17 00:00:56.160 --> 00:00:57.480 How's your experience so far? 18 00:00:58.760 --> 00:01:02.760 There are so many influential people here, not only from business, 19 00:01:02.760 --> 00:01:06.200 but also governments and academia. 20 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:09.800 So, very exciting. Yes. 21 00:01:09.800 --> 00:01:14.160 Great. So this week, many business leaders, politicians, academic leaders, 22 00:01:14.160 --> 00:01:18.400 I think they discuss various topics, and then they are... my impression is... 23 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.280 cautiously optimistic towards the future, but still uncertainty remains, 24 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.720 I think in all of us. How do you see... how do you set your business agenda, 25 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:28.680 priority agenda in 2023? 26 00:01:29.600 --> 00:01:34.280 Actually, the purpose that I decided to participate in Davos 27 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:39.840 is to learn about what business leaders are thinking 28 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.560 about, what the priorities are, 29 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:45.440 so in a sense I'm learning a 30 00:01:45.440 --> 00:01:50.280 lot here and many people are talking about environment, 31 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.000 right? So this is Davos, this is Europe. 32 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.840 So the environment is number one priority. I think so. 33 00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:59.600 That made me think, 34 00:01:59.960 --> 00:02:04.840 maybe feel that I have to embed the environmental priority 35 00:02:05.080 --> 00:02:09.280 as the core of business strategies moving forward, 36 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.160 not just 2023, but beyond that too. 37 00:02:13.320 --> 00:02:18.200 Great. So BCG also set two important agendas. One is climate and sustainability, 38 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.920 and one is digital and AI. So I highly agree with you. 39 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:26.200 I think that sustainability and climate is the most important agenda, 40 00:02:26.200 --> 00:02:30.920 and we all discussed it in Davos this week. Talking about digital, 41 00:02:31.040 --> 00:02:34.360 I think that's very much an important element in your business. 42 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:38.240 How do you see the impact of digital broadly on business, 43 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.560 and also particularly on the supply chain side, that's your core business. 44 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:46.280 Could you share your insights about the impact of digital in general 45 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:47.960 and also the supply chain impact? 46 00:02:48.760 --> 00:02:50.640 Okay. Before that, 47 00:02:50.640 --> 00:02:55.200 I think the weakness of Japanese companies in general 48 00:02:55.320 --> 00:02:59.480 is lack of strategy. Where do you compete, 49 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:03.760 how do you compete? So, 50 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:05.760 strategic literacy, 51 00:03:06.640 --> 00:03:10.040 in addition to IT literacy, is quite low, I would say, 52 00:03:10.440 --> 00:03:14.920 compared to the business leaders in Europe and, and in America. 53 00:03:15.640 --> 00:03:18.920 So when you say digital, I mean, 54 00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:21.960 it's almost impossible to directly compete with GAFA, 55 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.440 Microsoft or big tech giants as well 56 00:03:26.440 --> 00:03:30.040 as Chinese players. 57 00:03:30.920 --> 00:03:35.560 So how you compete in digital areas is very important. 58 00:03:36.440 --> 00:03:39.480 So, in the space of digital, 59 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:44.200 it's relatively easier to copy, 60 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:48.280 and also agility is very important. So, in that sense, 61 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:53.400 Japanese companies are not agile enough to lead a digital-only 62 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:54.040 space. 63 00:03:54.040 --> 00:03:58.960 So the combination of analog and digital kind of hybrid 64 00:03:59.440 --> 00:04:03.880 strategy is very, very key for the Japanese players too, 65 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.320 in terms of how to compete globally. 66 00:04:06.440 --> 00:04:08.080 Very insightful... 67 00:04:08.160 --> 00:04:12.720 What are the hurdles for the Japanese corporations to implement and execute 68 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:15.880 these digital initiatives? You said, you mentioned the word agility, 69 00:04:15.880 --> 00:04:19.920 that's a key word, but I tend to see that... it's very, in general, 70 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:21.480 very slow in action, 71 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:25.600 but how can the Japanese corporations overcome that aspect? 72 00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:29.680 Yes, still the way Japanese companies 73 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:34.080 develop products, solutions, 74 00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:38.640 new technology is to work very hard, 75 00:04:39.200 --> 00:04:43.880 in a very closed environment in the laboratory or in the factories. 76 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.720 But you have to look at the the big picture, right? 77 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:52.600 I mean, players in the world, how they are doing? 78 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.800 Otherwise you'll be disrupted easily. 79 00:04:55.080 --> 00:04:59.080 And business model is equally very important 80 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:00.840 to compete. 81 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:07.600 Some players could come up with the kind of advertising-based model, 82 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:12.600 and providing the technology or solutions, for free. So, 83 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:18.760 looking at the whole picture of the competitive landscape is very key for 84 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:22.200 Japanese players. So that's one of the reasons I decided to come here. 85 00:05:22.200 --> 00:05:26.040 Wow. Very good... Okay. So finally, 86 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.960 as I said, you used to work for BCG, 87 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:32.640 you were with us back in the early nineties. So, 88 00:05:32.760 --> 00:05:37.240 this year is 60 years' anniversary for BCG... any reflections, memories, 89 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:42.040 good or bad, any suggestions or advice to the BCG colleagues in the world? 90 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.600 First of all, congratulations on the sixtieth anniversary of BCG. 91 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.280 I only spent two and a half years, I think, 92 00:05:50.280 --> 00:05:54.040 with BCG's Tokyo office. But, 93 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.600 as I said, strategic thinking... 94 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:02.840 strategy is the weakness... 95 00:06:02.840 --> 00:06:06.840 I mean area, for Japanese, any business person, 96 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:11.120 particularly the business leaders. So, being trained, 97 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.920 it was very hard for me in BCG for even the two and a 98 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.880 half years... was very, very valuable experience for my 99 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:26.760 career. And I would very much encourage the current 100 00:06:26.960 --> 00:06:31.400 BCG employees to learn strategy - hard. So that will, 101 00:06:31.400 --> 00:06:35.400 that will be very, very beneficial for a future business career. 102 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.480 Got it. Today, strategy is still the core, 103 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.360 but we are going beyond the strategy... 104 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.240 hope that we can brush up our value proposition. So thank you very much, 105 00:06:43.280 --> 00:06:44.920 Higuchi-San, for joining us. Thank you very much. 106 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.320 Thank you for having me.