WEBVTT 00:00:05.961 --> 00:00:09.202 Breakthrough Energy is obviously quite a name 00:00:09.202 --> 00:00:11.443 in innovation in the energy space. 00:00:11.443 --> 00:00:12.883 I'd love just to hear your reflections 00:00:12.883 --> 00:00:16.044 on that journey, and what are you most proud of now? 00:00:16.044 --> 00:00:17.724 Yeah, well, thanks so much, Jim. 00:00:17.724 --> 00:00:20.005 I love talking to you. You've been a fantastic partner 00:00:20.005 --> 00:00:21.846 with BCG from the very beginning 00:00:21.846 --> 00:00:23.286 so we really appreciate you 00:00:23.286 --> 00:00:25.086 and all the efforts you guys have made 00:00:25.086 --> 00:00:27.687 to help us get to where we are. 00:00:27.687 --> 00:00:30.088 Yeah, it has been quite a journey over the last ten years. 00:00:30.088 --> 00:00:33.209 It starts really with Bill's vision. 00:00:33.209 --> 00:00:34.569 I mean and that really is. 00:00:34.569 --> 00:00:37.850 It's trying to leverage innovation everywhere possible 00:00:37.850 --> 00:00:41.771 to improve systems-which, systems improve people's lives. 00:00:41.771 --> 00:00:44.892 2015 is really when we got going 00:00:44.892 --> 00:00:46.772 and what we were doing was we were trying 00:00:46.772 --> 00:00:51.774 to restart an investment ecosystem in innovation for energy. 00:00:52.294 --> 00:00:55.535 We had experienced an effort called Cleantech, 00:00:55.535 --> 00:00:57.055 we branded it. 00:00:57.055 --> 00:00:59.616 That really didn't work out as well 00:00:59.616 --> 00:01:02.337 as people hoped it would from an investment perspective. 00:01:02.337 --> 00:01:04.617 And a lot of people stopped investing, 00:01:04.617 --> 00:01:06.978 and that meant the talent started being attracted 00:01:06.978 --> 00:01:09.619 to these, you know, tough areas to work in, 00:01:09.619 --> 00:01:10.859 tough tech areas. 00:01:10.859 --> 00:01:11.939 So that was what we were trying to do. 00:01:11.939 --> 00:01:13.780 We were trying to restart that ecosystem 00:01:13.780 --> 00:01:16.901 really by embedding two, I would say, 00:01:16.901 --> 00:01:19.341 core superpowers into the effort. 00:01:19.341 --> 00:01:21.862 And those were science and technology expertise 00:01:21.862 --> 00:01:22.862 in entrepreneurship. 00:01:22.862 --> 00:01:25.863 We were doing that out of the ashes of Cleantech. 00:01:25.863 --> 00:01:28.904 I mean and really it was really a fascinating time 00:01:28.904 --> 00:01:31.345 to be trying to do something and get people 00:01:31.345 --> 00:01:34.586 to invest in areas that they had stopped investing in. 00:01:34.586 --> 00:01:38.427 You know, now fast forward ten years from that start 00:01:38.427 --> 00:01:39.787 where nobody wanted to do this. 00:01:39.787 --> 00:01:43.268 We have over 130 companies in our portfolio. 00:01:43.268 --> 00:01:45.629 They're at various stages of development, 00:01:45.629 --> 00:01:49.510 but across all of the five areas we invest in-manufacturing, 00:01:49.510 --> 00:01:52.230 electricity, agriculture, transportation, and buildings- 00:01:52.230 --> 00:01:55.071 those are the areas that we define as energy. 00:01:55.071 --> 00:01:58.192 And so for every dollar that we've invested so far, 00:01:58.192 --> 00:02:00.433 our companies have raised an additional ten dollars. 00:02:00.433 --> 00:02:03.353 I mean, it is so exciting 00:02:03.353 --> 00:02:05.434 to see the journey that you've been on. 00:02:05.434 --> 00:02:06.714 What a success story. 00:02:06.714 --> 00:02:10.555 I mean to think of where you are from ten years ago, 00:02:10.555 --> 00:02:13.676 no companies in the 00:02:13.676 --> 00:02:15.477 energy innovation space. 00:02:15.477 --> 00:02:19.398 Now you just yourselves have $133 billion 00:02:20.278 --> 00:02:23.359 that you are deploying plus all the multiples. 00:02:23.359 --> 00:02:24.839 It's so exciting to see. 00:02:24.839 --> 00:02:25.680 Thanks. 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.800 I'm interested how you now look at this moment. 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.241 So you built something really exciting. 00:02:30.241 --> 00:02:32.041 Now we're in a different moment 00:02:32.041 --> 00:02:34.722 as we think of energy innovation. 00:02:34.722 --> 00:02:38.003 Just really interested to hear, how do you read this moment, 00:02:38.003 --> 00:02:39.683 and how do you think of Breakthrough 00:02:39.683 --> 00:02:41.324 and what you all are able to accomplish at this point? 00:02:41.324 --> 00:02:42.444 The moment is interesting, 00:02:42.444 --> 00:02:46.325 it's interesting to reflect on the past 00:02:46.325 --> 00:02:49.886 and really take a moment to see that we've come a long way. 00:02:49.886 --> 00:02:52.647 What you don't remember is how it felt 00:02:52.647 --> 00:02:55.768 at that moment when we were trying to create something 00:02:55.768 --> 00:02:58.409 that people thought would be very difficult, 00:02:58.409 --> 00:03:00.009 if not impossible to do. 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:03.570 Nobody forecasted 130 companies at this stage 00:03:03.570 --> 00:03:05.851 doing what they've done with the leverage that they have. 00:03:05.851 --> 00:03:08.131 It's hard to get things built, right? 00:03:08.131 --> 00:03:12.212 So what we've learned is it's not easy, 00:03:12.212 --> 00:03:15.493 but we have the capabilities to really discover technology 00:03:15.493 --> 00:03:17.014 and develop it. You know 00:03:17.014 --> 00:03:21.655 to get it deployed requires actual infrastructure investing. 00:03:22.735 --> 00:03:27.737 Infrastructure isn't really built for innovation investing 00:03:27.777 --> 00:03:29.297 so we have a gap in the marketplace. 00:03:29.297 --> 00:03:31.618 And so we see that now as an opportunity. 00:03:31.618 --> 00:03:33.378 We had a gap in the marketplace 00:03:33.378 --> 00:03:35.619 when we were trying to get 00:03:35.619 --> 00:03:39.180 folks to invest in energy innovation back in 2016. 00:03:39.180 --> 00:03:40.700 That's happened, that's happened. 00:03:40.700 --> 00:03:41.740 We see this next gap, 00:03:41.740 --> 00:03:44.781 which is, How do we actually encourage appropriately 00:03:44.781 --> 00:03:47.862 infrastructure-minded investing 00:03:47.862 --> 00:03:49.703 to actually help build companies 00:03:49.703 --> 00:03:51.063 that are ready to 00:03:51.063 --> 00:03:52.984 really deploy their technologies. 00:03:52.984 --> 00:03:56.184 And so that's the challenge right now and the opportunity, 00:03:56.184 --> 00:03:57.025 I would say. 00:03:57.025 --> 00:04:00.586 Yeah, it is exciting to see that your success 00:04:00.586 --> 00:04:03.026 now puts you in this new season, right? 00:04:03.026 --> 00:04:03.907 That you now 00:04:03.907 --> 00:04:06.467 have a lot of technology 00:04:06.467 --> 00:04:09.388 and now the problem is how do you actually get it deployed 00:04:09.388 --> 00:04:12.149 and out there changing the energy system as you say. 00:04:12.149 --> 00:04:14.189 So I'm interested in, 00:04:14.189 --> 00:04:15.950 as you look into this next chapter 00:04:15.950 --> 00:04:18.551 that will be pretty different from the last chapter, 00:04:18.551 --> 00:04:19.671 what makes you most energized? 00:04:19.671 --> 00:04:20.671 What are you most excited about? 00:04:20.671 --> 00:04:24.112 The thing I'm most enthused about is there have been 00:04:24.112 --> 00:04:25.913 along this first ten years, 00:04:25.913 --> 00:04:30.914 real relationship-driven partnerships that are right fit. 00:04:31.074 --> 00:04:33.435 I've always asked for right-fit partnership 00:04:33.435 --> 00:04:34.275 from the beginning. 00:04:34.275 --> 00:04:37.316 Folks that are really aligned with what we're trying to do 00:04:37.316 --> 00:04:39.516 and see mutual benefit in what we're trying to do. 00:04:39.516 --> 00:04:43.157 We are very good at discovering and developing innovation. 00:04:43.157 --> 00:04:45.198 We are very good at building companies. 00:04:45.198 --> 00:04:46.518 That's our core expertise. 00:04:46.518 --> 00:04:48.119 We're looking for folks that want to 00:04:48.119 --> 00:04:50.039 continue to double down on that 00:04:50.039 --> 00:04:53.720 and partner with us based on their experience expertise 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.521 on how do we actually take on this next challenge, 00:04:56.521 --> 00:04:57.881 which is filling that gap 00:04:57.881 --> 00:05:01.122 between innovation and infrastructure. 00:05:01.122 --> 00:05:04.323 Well, Rodi, we have so valued our partnership with you. 00:05:04.323 --> 00:05:05.523 Yeah, so grateful. 00:05:05.523 --> 00:05:08.204 We are excited for this next season that you're in, 00:05:08.204 --> 00:05:10.005 we're excited to be on the journey with you 00:05:10.005 --> 00:05:11.485 and thanks so much for taking the time today. 00:05:11.485 --> 00:05:13.806 Yeah, thank you, it's been a pleasure, appreciate it. 00:05:13.806 --> 00:05:16.406 (bright music)