WEBVTT 00:00:00.208 --> 00:00:03.003 Pat, I really want to thank you for being here today. 00:00:03.003 --> 00:00:04.713 I want to start by looking back 00:00:04.713 --> 00:00:06.464 at kind of the last 18 months 00:00:06.464 --> 00:00:08.925 and ultimately some of the changes that have happened 00:00:08.925 --> 00:00:12.095 within the value proposition of a CRM platform, 00:00:12.095 --> 00:00:14.014 you know, going from an end-to-end solution 00:00:14.014 --> 00:00:16.808 across UI workflow system of record 00:00:16.808 --> 00:00:18.685 into something that's a little bit more unpacked, 00:00:18.685 --> 00:00:21.646 you know, how do you see organizations preparing for this, 00:00:21.646 --> 00:00:23.481 and what does it mean for Salesforce? 00:00:23.481 --> 00:00:25.817 It certainly has been an unbelievable 18 months, 00:00:25.817 --> 00:00:27.318 very, very dynamic. 00:00:27.318 --> 00:00:30.530 I think in short, to answer your question, 00:00:30.530 --> 00:00:33.074 the monolith is dead. 00:00:33.074 --> 00:00:34.576 Long live the mesh. 00:00:34.576 --> 00:00:36.911 So what we see with a lot of the customers 00:00:36.911 --> 00:00:41.332 with whom we partner is this desire for their AI agents 00:00:41.332 --> 00:00:44.002 to work where work actually happens. 00:00:44.002 --> 00:00:45.712 Based on our experience, 00:00:45.712 --> 00:00:48.465 you don't really see CIOs or customers 00:00:48.465 --> 00:00:51.342 kind of blowing away their entire architecture. 00:00:51.342 --> 00:00:52.427 Instead, what they're doing 00:00:52.427 --> 00:00:54.637 is they're putting an agentic layer 00:00:54.637 --> 00:00:56.347 on top of an existing stack. 00:00:56.347 --> 00:00:58.558 And the interesting thing with that is, 00:00:58.558 --> 00:00:59.684 is the true value there? 00:00:59.684 --> 00:01:02.145 It's not really at the system of record, 00:01:02.145 --> 00:01:03.646 it's at the system of action. 00:01:03.646 --> 00:01:06.733 The CIOs, the customers who will win over the next decade, 00:01:06.733 --> 00:01:09.069 are those who are really transforming 00:01:09.069 --> 00:01:10.695 for agent readiness today. 00:01:10.695 --> 00:01:12.155 Clean data, 00:01:12.155 --> 00:01:14.866 federated identity, kind of agent orchestration layer 00:01:14.866 --> 00:01:17.660 that I mentioned across the entire ecosystem, 00:01:17.660 --> 00:01:21.164 not just kind of the four walls of one particular vendor. 00:01:21.164 --> 00:01:22.916 I think that's very wise, 00:01:22.916 --> 00:01:25.543 and ultimately when we start to think about, 00:01:25.543 --> 00:01:27.962 you know, CIOs or again technology leaders 00:01:27.962 --> 00:01:30.215 that are making decisions, 00:01:30.215 --> 00:01:31.466 like how do you see them 00:01:31.466 --> 00:01:33.343 either doubling down on specific vendors 00:01:33.343 --> 00:01:34.469 or leaving themselves open 00:01:34.469 --> 00:01:36.846 for more flexibility in their architecture? 00:01:36.846 --> 00:01:39.641 I think a simple heuristic that I use there is, 00:01:39.641 --> 00:01:41.726 and you used the word double down. 00:01:41.726 --> 00:01:45.105 Double down maybe where differentiation lives 00:01:45.105 --> 00:01:49.359 and remain flexible where commodity resides. 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.153 So let's say customer experience, 00:01:52.153 --> 00:01:54.030 if that's your competitive differentiator, 00:01:54.030 --> 00:01:56.866 which in most industries that is in fact the case, 00:01:56.866 --> 00:01:58.660 that's absolutely where you need to go 00:01:58.660 --> 00:02:02.247 and double or triple down in kind of deep platform bets. 00:02:02.247 --> 00:02:04.999 So deep data, deep integration, 00:02:04.999 --> 00:02:07.127 deep kind of agentic intelligence 00:02:07.127 --> 00:02:09.712 that is specific or tailored to your industry. 00:02:09.712 --> 00:02:13.424 And what we see on the infrastructure side, 00:02:13.424 --> 00:02:16.469 you know, AI infrastructure, orchestration infrastructure, 00:02:16.469 --> 00:02:17.929 integration middleware, 00:02:17.929 --> 00:02:21.141 kind of simple AI models that summarize 00:02:21.141 --> 00:02:23.226 or that classify information, 00:02:23.226 --> 00:02:26.062 you know, that's where you want to keep your options open. 00:02:26.062 --> 00:02:27.480 That is a commodity business 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:30.567 and then the prices will continue to fall there. 00:02:30.567 --> 00:02:32.485 Well, and to extend on that point, 00:02:32.485 --> 00:02:34.988 I think we're seeing a point where there's a lot of emphasis 00:02:34.988 --> 00:02:37.240 and focus on moving fast on the AI agenda, 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:38.992 but a lot of leaders in the industry 00:02:38.992 --> 00:02:41.035 are worried about regulation, 00:02:41.035 --> 00:02:43.121 rising costs, vendor lock-in. 00:02:43.121 --> 00:02:44.747 What are you seeing successful ones do 00:02:44.747 --> 00:02:46.916 to be able to drive to value quickly 00:02:46.916 --> 00:02:48.334 but also take into consideration 00:02:48.334 --> 00:02:50.795 some of these very real challenges? 00:02:50.795 --> 00:02:54.549 Yeah, so the tension there is definitely real. 00:02:54.549 --> 00:02:55.925 It might be a false dilemma, 00:02:55.925 --> 00:02:57.802 let's see if I get this right, 00:02:57.802 --> 00:02:59.596 speed without governance, that's basically technical debt 00:02:59.596 --> 00:03:01.306 speed without governance, that's basically technical debt 00:03:01.306 --> 00:03:03.433 with better marketing. 00:03:03.433 --> 00:03:05.101 And then governance without speed, 00:03:05.101 --> 00:03:06.102 if that happens, 00:03:06.102 --> 00:03:07.353 then you're in an environment 00:03:07.353 --> 00:03:09.063 where your competitor is going in 00:03:09.063 --> 00:03:11.566 and already talking to your individual customers, 00:03:11.566 --> 00:03:13.193 they're taking your customers for you. 00:03:13.193 --> 00:03:14.694 So you've got to go in, you've got to find 00:03:14.694 --> 00:03:17.614 kind of a happy medium there. 00:03:17.614 --> 00:03:20.658 On the costing side of things, 00:03:20.658 --> 00:03:23.203 what we've seen in this agentic world 00:03:23.203 --> 00:03:25.246 is that the cost 00:03:25.246 --> 00:03:27.040 is not necessarily, the cost concerns 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:29.959 or cost uncertainty is not necessarily with licenses, 00:03:29.959 --> 00:03:32.587 AI licenses or other software licenses, 00:03:32.587 --> 00:03:33.963 it's token sprawl. 00:03:33.963 --> 00:03:37.800 So you go in and it's a poorly structured prompt. 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:38.635 You know, you're going in, 00:03:38.635 --> 00:03:39.761 you're retrieving a bunch of data, 00:03:39.761 --> 00:03:41.387 duplicate agents as well, 00:03:41.387 --> 00:03:45.183 that little machine, that adds up over time. 00:03:45.183 --> 00:03:47.310 And really what we've seen with most CIOs 00:03:47.310 --> 00:03:50.355 is that they want visibility into that proactively 00:03:50.355 --> 00:03:54.692 rather than retroactively when the cloud bill arrives. 00:03:54.692 --> 00:03:56.194 On the vendor lock-in thing, 00:03:56.194 --> 00:04:00.073 you know, I think some vendor lock-in is rational. 00:04:00.073 --> 00:04:02.742 And what we've seen with a lot of CIOs, 00:04:02.742 --> 00:04:04.327 a lot of customers as well 00:04:04.327 --> 00:04:07.580 is that those that are successful 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:09.624 aren't reluctant to commit, 00:04:09.624 --> 00:04:11.542 but they commit intentionally. 00:04:11.542 --> 00:04:14.128 They know what they're buying, 00:04:14.128 --> 00:04:15.463 they know how much it costs, 00:04:15.463 --> 00:04:17.382 they know how to get out of it as well. 00:04:17.382 --> 00:04:20.051 And we really think that those are the types of CIOs, 00:04:20.051 --> 00:04:21.344 those are the companies, 00:04:21.344 --> 00:04:23.554 that'll be most successful over the next decade. 00:04:23.554 --> 00:04:25.640 Well Pat, I really appreciate your time and insight. 00:04:25.640 --> 00:04:26.766 Thank you, appreciate it. 00:04:26.766 --> 00:04:29.352 (bright music)