WEBVTT 00:00:00.125 --> 00:00:01.835 So we are seeing a really big shift 00:00:01.835 --> 00:00:05.797 in terms of rethinking, of moving away from assistance view 00:00:05.797 --> 00:00:09.175 to really take an end-to-end process workflow view 00:00:09.175 --> 00:00:10.135 to solve this. 00:00:10.135 --> 00:00:11.469 Dirk, Marcus, welcome. 00:00:11.469 --> 00:00:13.138 Marcus, to you first. 00:00:13.138 --> 00:00:15.682 Generally, how are you seeing telcos manage 00:00:15.682 --> 00:00:18.310 the implementation of AI and agentic AI? 00:00:18.310 --> 00:00:21.354 I think there's a lot of maturing in the industry now, 00:00:21.354 --> 00:00:23.523 and it's awesome to see companies moving 00:00:23.523 --> 00:00:28.486 from isolated use cases, experimentation, to really at scale, 00:00:28.737 --> 00:00:33.116 end-to-end workflow usage of AI and also agentic AI. 00:00:33.116 --> 00:00:35.994 And for me, that's the biggest change now in 2026, 00:00:35.994 --> 00:00:40.499 moving from small implementations to add scale end-to-end. 00:00:40.499 --> 00:00:42.584 What about customer service, Dirk? 00:00:42.584 --> 00:00:46.379 How are telcos approaching that when it comes to AI? 00:00:46.379 --> 00:00:49.174 What we've seen historically that telcos have managed 00:00:49.174 --> 00:00:50.884 to unify the entry gate 00:00:50.884 --> 00:00:53.720 for customers contacting and reaching out. 00:00:53.720 --> 00:00:56.264 But what still happened in the backend, 00:00:56.264 --> 00:00:57.933 the service agents still needed 00:00:57.933 --> 00:01:00.352 to look into five, six different systems 00:01:00.352 --> 00:01:02.145 to actually solve their case. 00:01:02.145 --> 00:01:05.732 So now AI is really a catalyst behind it 00:01:05.732 --> 00:01:07.776 because that no longer works. 00:01:07.776 --> 00:01:10.070 An agent has trouble to branch 00:01:10.070 --> 00:01:11.738 into so many different systems. 00:01:11.738 --> 00:01:15.534 So we are seeing a really big shift in terms of rethinking, 00:01:15.534 --> 00:01:17.577 of moving away from assistance view 00:01:17.577 --> 00:01:20.956 to really take an end-to-end process workflow view 00:01:20.956 --> 00:01:21.790 to solve this. 00:01:21.790 --> 00:01:23.125 And this is what the transformation 00:01:23.125 --> 00:01:24.626 that we are currently seeing. 00:01:24.626 --> 00:01:26.003 What about your own customers? 00:01:26.003 --> 00:01:28.171 What are you hearing from them? 00:01:28.171 --> 00:01:31.174 Yeah, so let me just pick one of our existing customers. 00:01:31.258 --> 00:01:34.553 They have huge contact centers. 00:01:34.553 --> 00:01:37.222 They have 12,000 people in their field service. 00:01:37.222 --> 00:01:40.642 And what they were seeing, that they were doing okay 00:01:40.642 --> 00:01:42.644 in terms of deploying the field agents 00:01:42.644 --> 00:01:44.188 and the efficiency around there, 00:01:44.188 --> 00:01:47.316 but the amount of work that was necessary manually 00:01:47.316 --> 00:01:50.068 to actually get the work orders into the system 00:01:50.068 --> 00:01:52.321 with agents needing to pull data 00:01:52.321 --> 00:01:54.782 from so many different systems to validate, 00:01:54.782 --> 00:01:58.369 to qualify, to ensure that all the background information 00:01:58.369 --> 00:02:01.413 was in the case file was really a problem. 00:02:01.413 --> 00:02:02.498 And they flipped it around. 00:02:02.498 --> 00:02:06.085 They had an agent before a human ever touches that case 00:02:06.085 --> 00:02:08.420 do all the legwork for them to make sure 00:02:08.420 --> 00:02:10.047 that everything is in order 00:02:10.047 --> 00:02:11.882 and really giving thousands of hours back 00:02:11.882 --> 00:02:13.342 to the organization. 00:02:13.342 --> 00:02:17.012 And the second bit that is, for me, even more striking, 00:02:17.012 --> 00:02:19.598 they also made sure that the quality is right. 00:02:19.598 --> 00:02:22.851 So the feedback we've got ex-post is like 90% 00:02:22.851 --> 00:02:25.312 of the work orders are really of great quality, 00:02:25.312 --> 00:02:27.022 so no need to rework. 00:02:27.022 --> 00:02:31.235 So we're seeing a change also in the mental, cultural piece 00:02:31.235 --> 00:02:33.112 of trusting the system suddenly 00:02:33.112 --> 00:02:35.906 because it no longer was a POC or anything, 00:02:35.906 --> 00:02:36.907 but really making sure 00:02:36.907 --> 00:02:39.118 that the system is delivering quality. 00:02:39.118 --> 00:02:41.203 90% is a huge rate, 00:02:41.203 --> 00:02:43.205 but that only works if you take a different view 00:02:43.205 --> 00:02:44.957 on your system landscape. 00:02:44.957 --> 00:02:48.252 Finally, to you both, can you share a real world moment, 00:02:48.252 --> 00:02:51.922 real world example, where AI really delivered value? 00:02:51.922 --> 00:02:55.009 What was it that made it work do you think? 00:02:55.009 --> 00:02:57.803 For me, one moment that brought value 00:02:57.803 --> 00:02:59.638 to life was when people moved away 00:02:59.638 --> 00:03:01.640 from the technical capabilities- 00:03:01.640 --> 00:03:03.392 so note summarization, whatever- 00:03:03.392 --> 00:03:06.437 to actually what generates value, to Dirk's point, 00:03:06.437 --> 00:03:07.772 to make the work order right 00:03:07.772 --> 00:03:10.149 and to understand if I get the work order right, 00:03:10.149 --> 00:03:12.443 I get the business value realized. 00:03:12.443 --> 00:03:13.277 Dirk? 00:03:13.277 --> 00:03:14.236 Yeah, I want to build on that. 00:03:14.236 --> 00:03:17.365 I mean, what I'm seeing is really the shift, 00:03:17.365 --> 00:03:19.367 the separation of having data somewhere 00:03:19.367 --> 00:03:21.869 and having workflows and systems somewhere. 00:03:21.869 --> 00:03:25.081 Agentic AI only works if you bring those two together. 00:03:25.081 --> 00:03:28.543 That you can contextualize the agent's work 00:03:28.543 --> 00:03:30.294 with all the relevant information, 00:03:30.294 --> 00:03:32.797 and that's a hard piece to crack. 00:03:32.797 --> 00:03:34.465 And everybody's talking about it there. 00:03:34.465 --> 00:03:36.717 So that's for me also the demarcation point 00:03:36.717 --> 00:03:39.595 that we are seeing right now that everybody's working on. 00:03:39.595 --> 00:03:41.764 Dirk, Marcus, thank you so much. 00:03:41.764 --> 00:03:42.598 Thank you. 00:03:42.598 --> 00:03:43.808 Thank you for having us.