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I think it's this aspect
that we're moving from a

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communication-centric aspect
to communications, computing,

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sensing, AI, all of those things

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being much more intertwined.

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John, Shashank, welcome.

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John, there's a lot of chat, isn't there,

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about the interplay
between 5G, AI, and 6G.

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What do you make of it?

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Well, here we are today in
the 5G connected world, 2026.

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We're already starting to use AI more

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and more, whether it's in our work

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or even how we interact

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with different types of applications.

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As we look forward, the not
only is changing how we're

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using AI, so agentic AI is
going to change our ability

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to interact with devices more naturally.

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And we're starting to see
right now already a lot

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of physical AI.

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How do you train robots and
that ability to then take AI

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and leverage not only the consumer world

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but also the industrial physical world,

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where you're going to be
able to train these new

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types of applications.

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So when I look at 6G, it's about

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that connectivity fabric,

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but it's really about designing
it for this next generation

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of AI applications.

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So going from 5G today in
'26 to 6G in 2029, 2030,

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that's going to bring in this new era

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of an AI-native 6G.

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Shashank, what does AI-native network

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look like in practice?

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How would it differ, if at all, from

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what we traditionally think
about mobile networks?

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Look, I think the biggest misnomer

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across the world today is
that people think about

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the next generation of
network as simply faster

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and with more capacity.

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We've just launched a report
in partnership with John

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and Qualcomm, where we've looked at

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what makes an AI-native
network actually different.

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What does it take to create a
connectivity sort of ecosystem

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that enables intelligence all around?

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And you think about the key differences

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as today's networks are all optimized

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for downlink connectivity.

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So data comes from the center
to the edge to the node.

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It's really important in
an AI-first world for data

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to move in both directions
with equal speed,

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predictability, and capacity.

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What's also required is intelligence

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not just at the application layer,

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but embedded into the very
fabric of the network itself

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that ensures you have the
right set of capacity delivered

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to the right node at the
right point in time without

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sacrificing the experience

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of all the other components around it.

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So in my mind, it's a
fundamentally different way

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to think about network architecture,

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and it's required to
make AI truly flourish

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and manifest in the way that
we've all imagined it to be.

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John, what stood out
for you in the report?

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I think it's this aspect

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that we're moving from a
communication-centric aspect

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to communications,
computing, sensing, AI, all

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of those things being
much more intertwined.

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So it's about how these
technologies work together

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and how does that evolve
with these new use cases

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that are getting more and
more traction and more

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and more industry interest

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to make sure it becomes a reality.

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Indulge me, let's look to
the future, ten years hence.

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I know that's not an easy thing to do

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in this fast moving space,

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but what's possible then
that isn't possible now?

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I think when I look at the future

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and I look at AI, it's about
how it becomes more natural.

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The same thing with
communications bandwidth.

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People take for granted
the amount of video traffic

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that's flowing over 5G.

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If we look at 6G era,

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it's going to be about AI traffic,
and it's going to be seamless.

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It's about making us more
productive, staying connected

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with our friends and family,

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but doing that in a
way that is meaningful,

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and it's happening generally
at the edge at the network.

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It's happening on the devices,

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but it's happening in a more
seamless overall manner.

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Shashank?

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Look, I think about this

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as any technology sufficiently advanced

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is you can't differentiate it from magic.

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And so look at the world
around you right now.

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It is completely different
from what it was ten years ago.

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We have data and access to
intelligence everywhere.

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I think about ten years from now,

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intelligence embedded
in the very fabric of

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how we operate and interact,

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immersive technologies that
allow us to deeply engage

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with other people like
us, and honestly, agents

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and robots that all serve
different functions in society.

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I'm very, very excited about, you know,

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what the next ten years can bring for us.

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Shashank, John, an absolute pleasure.

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Thank you so much for your time.

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Thank you.