WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.334 Marco, Fedde, welcome. 00:00:01.334 --> 00:00:04.295 Marco, AI is everywhere at the moment. 00:00:04.295 --> 00:00:06.131 So, what, and I suppose how, 00:00:06.131 --> 00:00:08.717 are companies prioritizing right now? 00:00:08.717 --> 00:00:10.010 I think there are three areas 00:00:10.010 --> 00:00:12.387 that companies are prioritizing right now 00:00:12.387 --> 00:00:13.346 that are different from one year ago. 00:00:13.346 --> 00:00:16.224 Number one is companies realize that data is everything. 00:00:16.224 --> 00:00:19.644 Data context is very important for the technology to work. 00:00:19.644 --> 00:00:22.480 Number two is that it's very important to make sure 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:26.067 that the agentic technology is embedded in the flow of work. 00:00:26.067 --> 00:00:29.154 So then, it is totally linked to business processes 00:00:29.154 --> 00:00:31.573 and it is not living in a different layer. 00:00:31.573 --> 00:00:34.868 And number three, safety, the trust, 00:00:34.868 --> 00:00:36.995 the compliance is very, very important 00:00:36.995 --> 00:00:40.123 to make sure that we can rely on the AI technology. 00:00:40.123 --> 00:00:42.375 I imagine the imperative for companies now 00:00:42.375 --> 00:00:45.170 is to move from experimentation to impact- 00:00:45.170 --> 00:00:46.880 that has to be. 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:47.923 How do they do that? 00:00:47.923 --> 00:00:49.800 What are the key moments? 00:00:49.800 --> 00:00:51.593 I think there are probably two key moments 00:00:51.593 --> 00:00:53.053 when you have a successful pilot, 00:00:53.053 --> 00:00:55.347 and you want to expand it into production. 00:00:55.347 --> 00:00:58.850 Number one is that it implies corporate changes 00:00:58.850 --> 00:01:00.519 and organizational changes 00:01:00.519 --> 00:01:02.854 because you are inverting your processes as a company, 00:01:02.854 --> 00:01:05.565 and you will now have human and agents working together. 00:01:05.565 --> 00:01:06.858 So you need C-level alignment, 00:01:06.858 --> 00:01:10.904 and you need proper support, top down-not only bottom up. 00:01:10.904 --> 00:01:13.907 And then, the second point is that 00:01:13.907 --> 00:01:17.786 more pilots moving into production will mean more agents, 00:01:17.786 --> 00:01:20.539 and more humans working together in a different way, 00:01:20.539 --> 00:01:21.915 so the orchestration layer 00:01:21.915 --> 00:01:24.459 to govern those relationships is very important. 00:01:24.459 --> 00:01:27.129 Fedde, when companies are trying to scale agentic AI, 00:01:27.129 --> 00:01:28.672 what are some of the common areas, 00:01:28.672 --> 00:01:30.716 the points in which they get a bit stuck? 00:01:30.716 --> 00:01:33.093 Yeah, most of the time, in my experience, 00:01:33.093 --> 00:01:36.221 it's not technology these days, it's three different things. 00:01:36.221 --> 00:01:39.892 One, they underestimate how important it is 00:01:39.892 --> 00:01:43.395 not to approach agentic AI as a tool change 00:01:43.395 --> 00:01:45.230 but really as an operating model change, 00:01:45.230 --> 00:01:47.775 as a way to rethink how work gets done. 00:01:47.775 --> 00:01:50.944 Secondly, they don't update the operating model 00:01:50.944 --> 00:01:52.279 to get it ready for autonomy. 00:01:52.279 --> 00:01:54.531 And so they don't have a rich context layer, 00:01:54.531 --> 00:01:56.700 clean API environment, real-time data, 00:01:56.700 --> 00:01:58.577 modular processes, and so on. 00:01:58.577 --> 00:02:00.704 Third, they don't think about the incentives. 00:02:00.704 --> 00:02:04.583 For instance, they won't change the rewards 00:02:04.583 --> 00:02:06.168 for their commercial teams to 00:02:06.168 --> 00:02:09.171 be more about outcomes than activities. 00:02:09.463 --> 00:02:13.133 And, finally, what does an AI-native company look like? 00:02:13.133 --> 00:02:15.886 Well, in this industry, we are in the Mobile World Congress today. 00:02:15.886 --> 00:02:17.680 I think in these regulated industries, 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:21.058 it is very important to have deep industry context 00:02:21.058 --> 00:02:22.810 to make sure that agentic technology 00:02:22.810 --> 00:02:24.395 can drive the right impacts. 00:02:24.395 --> 00:02:25.688 Second thing I will talk about 00:02:25.688 --> 00:02:28.399 orchestration of different agents working together. 00:02:28.399 --> 00:02:30.442 It's very important to have a proper framework 00:02:30.442 --> 00:02:32.987 and proper technology and tools supporting this. 00:02:32.987 --> 00:02:34.572 And last but not least, 00:02:34.572 --> 00:02:36.532 the agents need to be able to 00:02:36.532 --> 00:02:38.367 reason in an autonomous way, 00:02:38.367 --> 00:02:40.411 to make sure that the companies can switch 00:02:40.411 --> 00:02:43.414 from this reactive approach to proactive approach, 00:02:43.414 --> 00:02:45.040 to make sure that you can solve an incident 00:02:45.040 --> 00:02:46.375 before it happens, 00:02:46.375 --> 00:02:48.544 or you can present an offer to a customer 00:02:48.544 --> 00:02:50.171 before he asks for it. 00:02:50.171 --> 00:02:52.715 These are great, maybe let me add a couple. 00:02:52.715 --> 00:02:55.593 One, they had moved fully from pilots 00:02:55.593 --> 00:02:58.095 to building an AI backbone, 00:02:58.095 --> 00:03:01.724 from data to common framework for agents 00:03:01.724 --> 00:03:06.062 to that context and orchestration layer we're talking about. 00:03:06.062 --> 00:03:06.896 And then, secondly, 00:03:06.896 --> 00:03:09.649 they also moved from setting productivity targets, 00:03:09.649 --> 00:03:10.524 taking up cost, 00:03:10.524 --> 00:03:12.568 to also thinking about how they grow the top line. 00:03:12.568 --> 00:03:15.446 And so they get . . . penetrate the revenue ends. 00:03:16.447 --> 00:03:18.157 Fedde, Marco, a pleasure as always. 00:03:18.157 --> 00:03:18.991 Thank you so much for your time. 00:03:18.991 --> 00:03:19.825 Thank you. Thank you.