WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.250 --> 00:00:02.794 - Rishi, welcome, what are the key factors 2 00:00:02.794 --> 00:00:03.878 that have driven the growth 3 00:00:03.878 --> 00:00:05.964 of the private market investment industry 4 00:00:05.964 --> 00:00:08.591 to get us to where we are today? 5 00:00:08.591 --> 00:00:10.969 - So there's a few contributing factors. 6 00:00:10.969 --> 00:00:15.015 I think we have to acknowledge first and foremost 7 00:00:15.015 --> 00:00:16.933 that the very low interest rate policy 8 00:00:16.933 --> 00:00:19.227 that has been in effect for the better part 9 00:00:19.227 --> 00:00:21.688 of the last decade, if not longer, 10 00:00:21.688 --> 00:00:23.773 certainly had a hand to play in it. 11 00:00:23.773 --> 00:00:27.485 Because all of the real money investors, pension funds, 12 00:00:27.485 --> 00:00:30.280 endowments, foundations, insurance companies, 13 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:34.159 they're all effectively managing to deliver a return 14 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:37.245 that matches their liabilities, their obligations. 15 00:00:37.245 --> 00:00:40.123 And to obtain that return was very difficult 16 00:00:40.123 --> 00:00:42.083 when interest rates were near zero. 17 00:00:42.083 --> 00:00:45.545 So a natural offset to that was taking on some 18 00:00:45.545 --> 00:00:49.007 of that complexity and illiquidity risk premium 19 00:00:49.007 --> 00:00:51.760 that is embedded in private markets investing 20 00:00:51.760 --> 00:00:53.428 and capturing that. 21 00:00:53.428 --> 00:00:56.264 And so that has driven a fair degree of interest 22 00:00:56.264 --> 00:00:59.392 and growth, initially by institutional investors. 23 00:00:59.392 --> 00:01:00.602 And then when the merits 24 00:01:00.602 --> 00:01:03.438 of the underlying asset classes became much more evident 25 00:01:03.438 --> 00:01:05.982 in terms of the lower volatility, 26 00:01:05.982 --> 00:01:09.235 the focus on real value, long-term drivers 27 00:01:09.235 --> 00:01:12.572 of fundamental value creation as opposed to sentiment 28 00:01:12.572 --> 00:01:16.451 and a lot of noise embedded in markets, 29 00:01:16.451 --> 00:01:17.619 it compounded. 30 00:01:17.619 --> 00:01:20.413 So the interest has grown exponentially. 31 00:01:20.413 --> 00:01:22.957 And it is not surprising now that private markets across 32 00:01:22.957 --> 00:01:26.503 private equity, real estate, credit and infrastructure 33 00:01:26.503 --> 00:01:29.547 are much more mainstream for us as institutions 34 00:01:29.547 --> 00:01:32.175 as well as for the private wealth sector. 35 00:01:32.175 --> 00:01:33.009 - What do you see as some 36 00:01:33.009 --> 00:01:35.386 of the most promising growth opportunities 37 00:01:35.386 --> 00:01:36.679 in the digital economy? 38 00:01:37.722 --> 00:01:41.142 - So I think the talk of the town nowadays, 39 00:01:41.142 --> 00:01:44.771 of course, not surprisingly, is generative AI, right? 40 00:01:44.771 --> 00:01:46.856 But if you take a step back, 41 00:01:46.856 --> 00:01:51.402 the application of not just generative AI 42 00:01:51.402 --> 00:01:56.407 but the broader benefits of digitalization is highest 43 00:01:56.449 --> 00:01:59.160 in the corporate sector, in the business segment. 44 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:03.581 So if you take the perspective that I want to invest 45 00:02:03.581 --> 00:02:06.000 not just in the gold rush, or not in the gold rush 46 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.128 but in the providers of the picks and shovels, 47 00:02:09.128 --> 00:02:14.008 the places that we see being most interesting 48 00:02:14.008 --> 00:02:17.095 in terms of the digital economy are the providers 49 00:02:17.095 --> 00:02:20.265 of the basic foundation that will enable 50 00:02:20.265 --> 00:02:23.810 the application of AI, quantum computing, et cetera, 51 00:02:23.810 --> 00:02:27.647 for businesses being the cloud, being quantum computing, 52 00:02:27.647 --> 00:02:30.400 being the SaaS infrastructure that supports it and so on. 53 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.280 So, you know, the broader ecosystem surrounding AI 54 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.615 is I think really where the digital economy 55 00:02:37.615 --> 00:02:41.119 has got a lot to offer as an investment theme. 56 00:02:41.119 --> 00:02:44.372 The other place that I would want to add, 57 00:02:44.372 --> 00:02:46.332 because sometimes we kind of miss it, 58 00:02:46.332 --> 00:02:48.042 is climate innovation, right? 59 00:02:48.042 --> 00:02:50.670 A lot of innovation is going to be needed 60 00:02:50.670 --> 00:02:52.297 and is coming through 61 00:02:52.297 --> 00:02:55.717 to address the risks surrounding climate change. 62 00:02:55.717 --> 00:02:58.678 And that innovation is naturally relying 63 00:02:58.678 --> 00:03:02.557 on a lot of digital application of both software 64 00:03:02.557 --> 00:03:07.437 and hardware to refine current processes within industry 65 00:03:07.437 --> 00:03:10.148 and across different segments of industry 66 00:03:10.148 --> 00:03:12.817 to make them more sustainable and climate resilient. 67 00:03:12.817 --> 00:03:15.069 And that, I think is going to be a major opportunity 68 00:03:15.069 --> 00:03:16.905 in the next three decades. 69 00:03:16.905 --> 00:03:19.532 - How do business leaders strike the right balance though 70 00:03:19.532 --> 00:03:22.118 between innovation and risk management? 71 00:03:23.077 --> 00:03:25.121 - Yeah, okay, that's a tricky question because, you know 72 00:03:25.121 --> 00:03:27.790 I've spent the better part of the last 30 years 73 00:03:27.790 --> 00:03:30.960 in Investcorp, in aggregate almost 40 plus years now 74 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.296 trying to do exactly that. 75 00:03:33.296 --> 00:03:36.883 Because at the end of the day, you have to recognize 76 00:03:36.883 --> 00:03:39.344 that your investors are giving you capital 77 00:03:39.344 --> 00:03:43.556 on one hand to support that agility 78 00:03:43.556 --> 00:03:44.682 that you bring to the table, 79 00:03:44.682 --> 00:03:46.684 that entrepreneurial spirit, 80 00:03:46.684 --> 00:03:48.686 being fleet-footed in terms 81 00:03:48.686 --> 00:03:51.940 of identifying attractive themes and then opportunities 82 00:03:51.940 --> 00:03:54.943 within those themes, executing upon them, 83 00:03:54.943 --> 00:03:57.487 but just identification is not enough. 84 00:03:57.487 --> 00:03:59.197 You have to execute upon them and 85 00:03:59.197 --> 00:04:01.282 create value and then monetize them. 86 00:04:01.282 --> 00:04:03.534 So all that requires that mindset 87 00:04:03.534 --> 00:04:05.286 of entrepreneurship. 88 00:04:05.286 --> 00:04:07.205 But at the same time, 89 00:04:07.205 --> 00:04:10.625 they're also relying on us particularly 90 00:04:10.625 --> 00:04:14.504 as an institution to deliver that safety net to them. 91 00:04:14.504 --> 00:04:17.548 That risk mitigation, that mindset of 'there 92 00:04:17.548 --> 00:04:21.719 is an upside to be captured, but with contained downside' 93 00:04:21.719 --> 00:04:22.929 And that is really where 94 00:04:22.929 --> 00:04:26.057 that institutional spirit also has a role to play. 95 00:04:26.057 --> 00:04:29.602 So, you know, we kind of use the tagline at Investcorp. 96 00:04:29.602 --> 00:04:33.106 You know, Investcorp is a firm into which 97 00:04:33.106 --> 00:04:36.067 culturally we've tried to embed the twin concepts 98 00:04:36.067 --> 00:04:39.737 of entrepreneurial spirit with an institutional mindset. 99 00:04:39.737 --> 00:04:42.615 And it requires hard work because that is culture, 100 00:04:42.615 --> 00:04:44.951 as you know, propagates through osmosis. 101 00:04:44.951 --> 00:04:46.160 You know, you don't dictate it, 102 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:47.996 you don't write it down in books. 103 00:04:47.996 --> 00:04:51.499 It happens, you know, through my engagement with my team, 104 00:04:51.499 --> 00:04:53.626 their engagement with their team and so on 105 00:04:53.626 --> 00:04:54.460 and it propagates. 106 00:04:54.460 --> 00:04:56.045 And that's really where I think we 107 00:04:56.045 --> 00:04:58.047 have done exceptionally well so far. 108 00:04:58.047 --> 00:05:00.383 - Rishi, thank you so much. - It's a pleasure.