WEBVTT 70c720c6-244f-4c9d-8f96-c0949de4d94e-0 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.191 One needs to be very clear and vocal about the fact that blending is about 70c720c6-244f-4c9d-8f96-c0949de4d94e-1 00:00:04.191 --> 00:00:07.502 enhancing the value proposition we're bringing to investors, 70c720c6-244f-4c9d-8f96-c0949de4d94e-2 00:00:07.502 --> 00:00:11.520 not only from an impact standpoint, but also from a financial standpoint. 937f9cba-04e3-4d7c-a2d8-f8ab800f63c1-0 00:00:12.280 --> 00:00:14.040 Timothée, thank you so much for being here. 208b29e0-a8f3-478e-89d4-470e9e5bb140-0 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.293 Thinking about a just transition, are large institutional investors 208b29e0-a8f3-478e-89d4-470e9e5bb140-1 00:00:18.293 --> 00:00:20.240 hesitant to enter blended finance? 65a7dfeb-aa69-4c40-955e-a9b486d5a490-0 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:26.200 We've seen significant traction for blended finance over the past five years. fd20f6bd-01f3-47b5-82cb-faf8dbeb6d4f-0 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:34.480 It's an 80% increase in terms of total AUM raised on an annual basis. d454a975-27b3-4791-a0c4-63d5beedad2a-0 00:00:35.040 --> 00:00:38.030 Having said that, there are still some barriers we need to d454a975-27b3-4791-a0c4-63d5beedad2a-1 00:00:38.030 --> 00:00:41.882 address to ensure that large investors take into account blended finance in d454a975-27b3-4791-a0c4-63d5beedad2a-2 00:00:41.882 --> 00:00:43.200 their standard allocation. b4c326b7-4f5d-4238-9fb1-9d5ebdb2df0b-0 00:00:43.720 --> 00:00:46.000 Why are some investors hesitant? 02f6fce2-d5e5-45d1-b801-b0d64836799d-0 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.421 Well, we've seen some misconception about 02f6fce2-d5e5-45d1-b801-b0d64836799d-1 00:00:49.421 --> 00:00:53.360 blended finance, one of which is the fact that they need 02f6fce2-d5e5-45d1-b801-b0d64836799d-2 00:00:53.360 --> 00:00:55.640 to give up risk-adjusted returns. 523b244a-82e5-4c08-aa78-8d95606f0e73-0 00:00:56.160 --> 00:01:00.104 That's certainly not the case for the compelling blended finance value 523b244a-82e5-4c08-aa78-8d95606f0e73-1 00:01:00.104 --> 00:01:02.160 proposition we've seen in the market. 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-0 00:01:03.160 --> 00:01:06.282 Second reason, which is not a misconception, 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-1 00:01:06.282 --> 00:01:11.903 is linked to the features that we've seen on most blended finance structures and 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-2 00:01:11.903 --> 00:01:15.581 vehicles is that it's of too small size, number one, 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-3 00:01:15.581 --> 00:01:20.855 and we're talking to institutional investors with large amounts of money to 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-4 00:01:20.855 --> 00:01:24.325 deploy, so they can't spend too much time on tiny 6b89c0b0-cc4e-42cd-bd1d-f79daac2d737-5 00:01:24.325 --> 00:01:27.240 value, tiny investment value propositions. f837d379-9c90-4894-864f-457b36b99ac6-0 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:32.788 The second key reason for investors shying away from blended finance f837d379-9c90-4894-864f-457b36b99ac6-1 00:01:32.788 --> 00:01:35.120 structures is the complexity. 7192882c-b1cf-4c2f-9fad-6a546cd3a210-0 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:39.837 We haven't seen sufficient standardization in this market and that's 7192882c-b1cf-4c2f-9fad-6a546cd3a210-1 00:01:39.837 --> 00:01:44.763 an issue for them because the transaction costs remain very significant for each 7192882c-b1cf-4c2f-9fad-6a546cd3a210-2 00:01:44.763 --> 00:01:49.508 and every transaction they are looking at. And describe the investors who are 7192882c-b1cf-4c2f-9fad-6a546cd3a210-3 00:01:49.508 --> 00:01:50.359 participating. b63dffc6-432a-4747-88f5-b249e93b7923-0 00:01:51.720 --> 00:01:57.710 The common criteria we've observed among investors that have participated into b63dffc6-432a-4747-88f5-b249e93b7923-1 00:01:57.710 --> 00:02:04.079 blended finance structure are number one, an explicit objective to allocate part of b63dffc6-432a-4747-88f5-b249e93b7923-2 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:08.705 their assets into climate solutions, into some impact teams, b63dffc6-432a-4747-88f5-b249e93b7923-3 00:02:08.705 --> 00:02:12.800 into development opportunities in an emerging market. e0a1af19-1ea3-4fa8-a08e-af22f3d54a67-0 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:17.851 So even though they do have some very well established and clear fiduciary e0a1af19-1ea3-4fa8-a08e-af22f3d54a67-1 00:02:17.851 --> 00:02:20.690 duties, they think that by focusing on these e0a1af19-1ea3-4fa8-a08e-af22f3d54a67-2 00:02:20.690 --> 00:02:24.790 teams they can really reach their investment objectives and meet e0a1af19-1ea3-4fa8-a08e-af22f3d54a67-3 00:02:24.790 --> 00:02:27.439 differential returns they are looking for. 128c512c-ca6b-46f1-9fce-c5e86c4f429e-0 00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:33.328 The second characteristic that we've observed was that they had the resources, 128c512c-ca6b-46f1-9fce-c5e86c4f429e-1 00:02:33.328 --> 00:02:38.751 the governance that was fit for purpose to really put in place the due diligence 128c512c-ca6b-46f1-9fce-c5e86c4f429e-2 00:02:38.751 --> 00:02:43.840 that is required before doing an investment into a blended finance vehicle. 7f64a1f1-60a3-479c-a18b-3cc6e3dfb736-0 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.040 What are some practical steps that asset managers can take to lower the barriers? 2f5d40e1-1604-4391-9e72-111ac8ddd73d-0 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:54.002 We see different steps that will aim to address A, 2f5d40e1-1604-4391-9e72-111ac8ddd73d-1 00:02:54.002 --> 00:02:58.165 the marketing of blended finance structure, and B, 2f5d40e1-1604-4391-9e72-111ac8ddd73d-2 00:02:58.165 --> 00:03:01.920 the structuring of blended finance structure. 95bb3668-ae0f-43e2-90f2-f1fb7a0f6bb4-0 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:05.709 When it comes to marketing, one needs to be very clear and vocal 95bb3668-ae0f-43e2-90f2-f1fb7a0f6bb4-1 00:03:05.709 --> 00:03:10.141 about the fact that blending is about enhancing the value proposition we're 95bb3668-ae0f-43e2-90f2-f1fb7a0f6bb4-2 00:03:10.141 --> 00:03:13.755 bringing to investors, not only from an impact standpoint but 95bb3668-ae0f-43e2-90f2-f1fb7a0f6bb4-3 00:03:13.755 --> 00:03:15.680 also from a financial standpoint. 3ed378c6-4db2-4194-b388-bdb28f4bc336-0 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.234 Linked to that, the industry as a whole needs to really 3ed378c6-4db2-4194-b388-bdb28f4bc336-1 00:03:20.234 --> 00:03:24.400 identify what the USPs are of blended finance instruments, 3ed378c6-4db2-4194-b388-bdb28f4bc336-2 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:29.060 of blended finance vehicles, and then use these USPs on financial 3ed378c6-4db2-4194-b388-bdb28f4bc336-3 00:03:29.060 --> 00:03:34.427 terms to really shed light on the comparative advantages of blended finance 3ed378c6-4db2-4194-b388-bdb28f4bc336-4 00:03:34.427 --> 00:03:37.040 structure versus vanilla comparables. ca3f516a-e41a-4b3d-a120-29d479a0ee47-0 00:03:37.920 --> 00:03:42.386 When it comes to the structuring of blended finance instruments, ca3f516a-e41a-4b3d-a120-29d479a0ee47-1 00:03:42.386 --> 00:03:46.989 of blended finance vehicles, one needs to always bear in mind when ca3f516a-e41a-4b3d-a120-29d479a0ee47-2 00:03:46.989 --> 00:03:52.074 working on scaling, simplifying, and making sure we end up with efficient ca3f516a-e41a-4b3d-a120-29d479a0ee47-3 00:03:52.074 --> 00:03:57.777 structure from an impact standpoint that it will need to become an easy fit within ca3f516a-e41a-4b3d-a120-29d479a0ee47-4 00:03:57.777 --> 00:04:00.320 investors' standard asset allocation. d40210ec-0f0e-49de-9612-3993ea4545b5-0 00:04:00.320 --> 00:04:04.719 At the end of the day, this investment proposition will be d40210ec-0f0e-49de-9612-3993ea4545b5-1 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:10.387 reviewed by infrastructure investment team, by emerging market credit team, d40210ec-0f0e-49de-9612-3993ea4545b5-2 00:04:10.387 --> 00:04:15.160 by fixed income developed market teams, and so on and so forth. fb521419-1634-43d0-928f-2ba95435c84f-0 00:04:15.160 --> 00:04:19.908 So we need to make sure that the instrument of the fund we propose can fb521419-1634-43d0-928f-2ba95435c84f-1 00:04:19.908 --> 00:04:23.720 fall within one of these existing bucket of investments. 6f75bfcb-96e3-4f5a-9acc-bd8c99e650c1-0 00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:25.280 Thank you so much.