WEBVTT 1ffcc6d7-4ba9-4a69-94a3-066ad196d821-0 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.734 So our role is really, first, to be kind of the connection between our 1ffcc6d7-4ba9-4a69-94a3-066ad196d821-1 00:00:04.734 --> 00:00:07.908 investor, our clients, the philanthropic world, 1ffcc6d7-4ba9-4a69-94a3-066ad196d821-2 00:00:07.908 --> 00:00:11.413 and the government, government agencies, foundation, 1ffcc6d7-4ba9-4a69-94a3-066ad196d821-3 00:00:11.413 --> 00:00:14.851 DFI will also have their own objective as investor, 1ffcc6d7-4ba9-4a69-94a3-066ad196d821-4 00:00:14.851 --> 00:00:19.480 and also the research academic world, and to bring that all together. 8ac793e3-c925-4663-a9a1-3983518a9354-0 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.320 Laura, thank you so much for being here. 8cce5f56-b0a1-4017-aaa4-15d05fa5e2b5-0 00:00:21.400 --> 00:00:24.080 What are some of the biggest challenges in blended finance, 8cce5f56-b0a1-4017-aaa4-15d05fa5e2b5-1 00:00:24.080 --> 00:00:25.600 and what lessons have you learned? 71a3f75e-8424-44d2-9968-189b6bfea9d6-0 00:00:26.360 --> 00:00:27.960 Thank you very much for having me today. 85d86715-9d24-463d-8304-9ba213385bdd-0 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.218 Well, blended finance is an absolutely 85d86715-9d24-463d-8304-9ba213385bdd-1 00:00:30.218 --> 00:00:34.213 important topic for investor, but it's true that they are very often 85d86715-9d24-463d-8304-9ba213385bdd-2 00:00:34.213 --> 00:00:37.920 deferred to investing into blended finance for various reasons. 539816fd-44c1-4888-868b-7cf7bf3e4068-0 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.320 Long-term payback in blended finance fund tend to be over a ten-year period. 9951feb7-3190-4b75-a394-48631cfdc813-0 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:47.593 Lack of liquidity in this investment vehicle, also uncertain return, 9951feb7-3190-4b75-a394-48631cfdc813-1 00:00:47.593 --> 00:00:50.828 could be an issue and a challenge for them, 9951feb7-3190-4b75-a394-48631cfdc813-2 00:00:50.828 --> 00:00:56.342 as well as a really identifying the key impact metrics thereafter could be 9951feb7-3190-4b75-a394-48631cfdc813-3 00:00:56.342 --> 00:00:57.960 another complex issue. 24095c02-125d-4557-80fe-717c1979ffd2-0 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.429 And really understanding how blended finance work, how the waterfall, 24095c02-125d-4557-80fe-717c1979ffd2-1 00:01:02.429 --> 00:01:05.813 the structure, and the catalytic concession tranches 24095c02-125d-4557-80fe-717c1979ffd2-2 00:01:05.813 --> 00:01:07.920 work, could be another challenge. c3207604-23b7-4e82-853e-5b4d8cee8ae4-0 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.686 And this is where we need to spend a lot of time educating our client. c3207604-23b7-4e82-853e-5b4d8cee8ae4-1 00:01:12.686 --> 00:01:17.453 And looking at the role of asset managers and the role that they play, c3207604-23b7-4e82-853e-5b4d8cee8ae4-2 00:01:17.453 --> 00:01:21.280 what can they do to really manage investor expectations? 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-0 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:27.066 So our role is really, first, to be kind of the connection between our 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-1 00:01:27.066 --> 00:01:30.464 investor, our clients, the philanthropic world, 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-2 00:01:30.464 --> 00:01:34.216 and the government, government agencies, foundation, 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-3 00:01:34.216 --> 00:01:37.898 DFI will also have their own objective as investor, 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-4 00:01:37.898 --> 00:01:43.491 and also the research academic world, and to bring that all together to create 61c4cc43-6c28-441d-977c-228d0812c7b0-5 00:01:43.491 --> 00:01:46.960 this type of vehicle that work for our investor. cdd5eaa1-5c4f-4941-aa6e-720677d1d31c-0 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:51.240 That would be I think our key role in that. 31a487ae-4f3a-4c0a-8daa-6fe57da47e71-0 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:56.520 So we spoke about the challenges, what are some more solutions? e6f71bd9-a37a-4ca8-a8ce-96ae0339eaf6-0 00:01:56.520 --> 00:02:01.109 So our key role as an asset manager is to educate our client and to share on e6f71bd9-a37a-4ca8-a8ce-96ae0339eaf6-1 00:02:01.109 --> 00:02:05.640 lessons learned from past strategy and past product around blended finance. 5a657f6d-cc1b-4803-aefb-615066bf67d8-0 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:10.299 One of the key lesson learn and key solution that we believe is needed to 5a657f6d-cc1b-4803-aefb-615066bf67d8-1 00:02:10.299 --> 00:02:14.076 scale blended finance is to calibrate the concessional tranches, 5a657f6d-cc1b-4803-aefb-615066bf67d8-2 00:02:14.076 --> 00:02:17.040 the junior tranches, which is absolutely critical. 29d39222-dfc2-46af-b846-04ebe100f6cf-0 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.486 In the past, some blended finance fund have been using 29d39222-dfc2-46af-b846-04ebe100f6cf-1 00:02:20.486 --> 00:02:22.760 these junior tranches at a large extent. 74de2bc4-c41b-40e4-a4fa-f01530a9e61b-0 00:02:22.760 --> 00:02:29.226 What we would recommend and what we've learned is that this need doesn't need to 74de2bc4-c41b-40e4-a4fa-f01530a9e61b-1 00:02:29.226 --> 00:02:33.218 be 50% of the fund, but rather to keep it low—15, 74de2bc4-c41b-40e4-a4fa-f01530a9e61b-2 00:02:33.218 --> 00:02:39.526 20%—and use the full potential of the catalytic tranches to leverage and bring 74de2bc4-c41b-40e4-a4fa-f01530a9e61b-3 00:02:39.526 --> 00:02:42.640 private investor—capital—into the fund. 22fdde28-9b6a-4ce0-83ee-8d5ead719f76-0 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.680 That would be one key aspect. 944445ff-2a89-41fa-98b7-8f269fc33997-0 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:49.793 I think another one that is very important is the partnership with 944445ff-2a89-41fa-98b7-8f269fc33997-1 00:02:49.793 --> 00:02:52.160 research and the academic world. 2c795ecb-ccd5-4652-b01c-455e2fa0c8f0-0 00:02:52.160 --> 00:02:56.500 We need to have more metrics around what's the return of a blended finance 2c795ecb-ccd5-4652-b01c-455e2fa0c8f0-1 00:02:56.500 --> 00:03:00.552 fund, what's the default rate, what are the impact metrics so that we 2c795ecb-ccd5-4652-b01c-455e2fa0c8f0-2 00:03:00.552 --> 00:03:05.067 can really prove to investor that this mechanism work and that they're really 2c795ecb-ccd5-4652-b01c-455e2fa0c8f0-3 00:03:05.067 --> 00:03:09.697 protected and that the risk of default and the risk they are exposed to and the 2c795ecb-ccd5-4652-b01c-455e2fa0c8f0-4 00:03:09.697 --> 00:03:12.360 risk that they perceive is actually very low. 66dc0f77-8881-47a2-9893-a42b75c1c21a-0 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:16.880 And that blended finance is actually very effective and very efficient. 3253a033-3fc8-4799-8194-d8069aaaca0c-0 00:03:17.040 --> 00:03:21.364 And so the third element that was really helpful to us is achieving 3253a033-3fc8-4799-8194-d8069aaaca0c-1 00:03:21.364 --> 00:03:24.480 investment-grade rating for the senior tranches. 4d65a206-2f1e-445e-853c-5df6ec963df2-0 00:03:24.480 --> 00:03:28.884 And so usually there is challenges from rating agencies to get those deal rating 4d65a206-2f1e-445e-853c-5df6ec963df2-1 00:03:28.884 --> 00:03:33.181 and to achieving an investment-grade rating for the senior trenches can really 4d65a206-2f1e-445e-853c-5df6ec963df2-2 00:03:33.181 --> 00:03:34.160 help the investor. 4c526c65-d7a3-449f-a316-c6f84d4500b7-0 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:39.912 And the fourth element is working closely with government agencies and DFI on their 4c526c65-d7a3-449f-a316-c6f84d4500b7-1 00:03:39.912 --> 00:03:45.133 requirement to make sure we can scale blended finance and that the fund is not 4c526c65-d7a3-449f-a316-c6f84d4500b7-2 00:03:45.133 --> 00:03:46.720 too narrow in its focus. 341a9a58-2b75-438b-8020-5c8b0122cda7-0 00:03:46.720 --> 00:03:50.291 And what I mean by that is being—having a global fund, 341a9a58-2b75-438b-8020-5c8b0122cda7-1 00:03:50.291 --> 00:03:54.512 being exposed to various industries, fixed versus floating rate, 341a9a58-2b75-438b-8020-5c8b0122cda7-2 00:03:54.512 --> 00:03:57.760 being exposed to local currency as well versus US 994628f2-8f91-416b-8abf-a24693d96f3c-0 00:03:57.760 --> 00:03:59.800 dollar currency, and so on. ac03e2f9-168b-40b2-8394-51047a0776b1-0 00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:00.760 Thank you so much. 9d7fd75c-175f-42fe-8288-941ff9e6b026-0 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:03.040 Thank you very much for having me today.