WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.294 If you put data centers in the wrong place in the world, 2 00:00:03.294 --> 00:00:05.422 you're going to have growth at risk. 3 00:00:05.714 --> 00:00:06.172 Tim, Richard, 4 00:00:06.172 --> 00:00:08.258 thank you so much for being here. 5 00:00:08.633 --> 00:00:10.343 Tim, this first question is for you. 6 00:00:10.510 --> 00:00:15.390 What regulatory trends and priorities should leaders really be taking into 2026? 7 00:00:15.849 --> 00:00:18.226 It's such a great question because you know, 8 00:00:18.226 --> 00:00:22.230 this whole field started off in a regulatory manner when we worked on clean 9 00:00:22.230 --> 00:00:24.399 air, clean water, and that kind of thing. 10 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:25.734 And then it became voluntary. 11 00:00:26.276 --> 00:00:29.779 And for many, many years, companies have reported voluntarily. 12 00:00:30.071 --> 00:00:35.035 The new trend right now is for companies that report their sustainability results 13 00:00:35.035 --> 00:00:38.038 voluntarily, is now they're going to be forced to 14 00:00:38.038 --> 00:00:40.040 report those in their financials. 15 00:00:40.123 --> 00:00:44.586 So it has to be audited, assured, timely, comparable—all things that companies 16 00:00:44.586 --> 00:00:46.921 really haven't figured out how to do yet. 17 00:00:47.255 --> 00:00:49.674 And honestly, that's going to take some time and effort. 18 00:00:49.924 --> 00:00:53.720 So what we've been telling our clients is start now, work through the process, 19 00:00:53.720 --> 00:00:57.348 go through it a couple of times, figure out where the kinks are so you can 20 00:00:57.348 --> 00:01:00.185 get it right when it actually is required by governments. 21 00:01:00.477 --> 00:01:05.732 And right now we're tracking about more than 60% of the global economy will 22 00:01:05.732 --> 00:01:09.986 require greenhouse gas reporting in just the next few years. 23 00:01:10.111 --> 00:01:13.573 So that's what I think companies should be focused on. 24 00:01:13.573 --> 00:01:16.743 Richard, and how can companies manage the cost of 25 00:01:16.743 --> 00:01:20.914 sustainability initiatives and also getting this long-term value? 26 00:01:21.539 --> 00:01:26.127 I think today the question on cost is really one of competitiveness, innovation, 27 00:01:26.127 --> 00:01:26.961 and compliance. 28 00:01:27.462 --> 00:01:28.922 Those are the things to focus on. 29 00:01:28.922 --> 00:01:31.007 So really, it's around value. 30 00:01:31.007 --> 00:01:36.054 It's not necessarily around how much my sustainability issues going to cost me to 31 00:01:36.054 --> 00:01:39.057 analyze and how much that team going to cost me. 32 00:01:39.307 --> 00:01:43.394 When we look across the industry, whether it's with corporations or 33 00:01:43.394 --> 00:01:46.773 financial institutions, we are seeing definitely like a 34 00:01:46.773 --> 00:01:51.277 rightsizing of certain teams but an integration into other teams for sure. 35 00:01:51.611 --> 00:01:55.240 So I think, what is the cost of having good 36 00:01:55.240 --> 00:01:56.157 innovation. 37 00:01:56.407 --> 00:01:58.368 What is the cost of ensuring your competitiveness. 38 00:01:58.368 --> 00:02:02.664 Two-thirds of the investment in the world's energy system today is with 39 00:02:02.664 --> 00:02:05.750 renewables, battery storage, EV, things like that, 40 00:02:05.750 --> 00:02:08.002 not with oil and gas and fossil fuels. 41 00:02:08.545 --> 00:02:11.548 And so, if you really want to innovate, you have to stay true to trends, 42 00:02:11.548 --> 00:02:12.841 you have to follow those trends. 43 00:02:13.299 --> 00:02:15.969 AI is a massive trend, so is energy transition. 44 00:02:16.010 --> 00:02:18.388 And those are things to spend money on. 45 00:02:19.139 --> 00:02:21.599 And so, I think the question of cost can 46 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.311 sometimes look like it's, well, we just need to reduce costs. 47 00:02:26.229 --> 00:02:30.191 But I do think that really it's one of competitiveness and innovation. 48 00:02:30.191 --> 00:02:31.776 And that's actually what investors are looking for. 49 00:02:31.776 --> 00:02:35.864 And this question is for both of you. Looking beyond compliance, 50 00:02:35.864 --> 00:02:39.701 how can companies turn regulation into real business value? 51 00:02:40.493 --> 00:02:43.955 Well, I can start, and I think this will go right into 52 00:02:43.955 --> 00:02:46.624 Richard, is that the answer to me is risk. 53 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:51.462 What really matters is business value, and business value is increasingly 54 00:02:51.462 --> 00:02:53.006 manifest in terms of risk. 55 00:02:53.548 --> 00:02:58.261 So for example, last year, in terms of natural disasters that 56 00:02:58.261 --> 00:03:02.515 happened in the US, the cost to remediate those natural 57 00:03:02.515 --> 00:03:08.229 disasters was more than 2% of the US GDP, and that was before the LA fires. 58 00:03:08.563 --> 00:03:12.609 That gives you a sense of how massive this risk can be when it comes to a 59 00:03:12.609 --> 00:03:13.276 corporation. 60 00:03:13.651 --> 00:03:15.695 And so if the board of directors, at the C-suite, 61 00:03:15.695 --> 00:03:18.198 if they're not looking at this, they're not doing their job. 62 00:03:18.615 --> 00:03:23.119 So it's super important that companies focus on where the climate risk is for 63 00:03:23.119 --> 00:03:23.953 their business. 64 00:03:25.330 --> 00:03:25.663 Yeah, and 65 00:03:25.663 --> 00:03:27.665 I would double down on that point. 66 00:03:27.916 --> 00:03:29.876 But imagine if you think about data centers, 67 00:03:29.876 --> 00:03:32.587 you think that's actually what Open AI is buying, data centers. 68 00:03:33.129 --> 00:03:35.798 And you think about data centers, and you think about climate change and 69 00:03:35.798 --> 00:03:36.925 how that affects data centers. 70 00:03:36.925 --> 00:03:39.052 Well, data centers need stable sources of 71 00:03:39.052 --> 00:03:41.095 energy, and they need water for cooling. 72 00:03:41.638 --> 00:03:45.183 So if you put data centers in the wrong place in the world, 73 00:03:45.183 --> 00:03:47.268 you're going to have growth at risk. 74 00:03:47.727 --> 00:03:51.689 That's something that investors are very focused on in both public and private 75 00:03:51.689 --> 00:03:52.106 markets. 76 00:03:52.106 --> 00:03:54.025 It's something a lot of companies are focused on too. 77 00:03:54.692 --> 00:03:55.902 Flip that into innovation then. 78 00:03:55.902 --> 00:03:59.697 How do you ensure that you are competitively positioned with respect to 79 00:03:59.697 --> 00:04:00.240 that risk? 80 00:04:00.657 --> 00:04:05.203 And I think that is something that is across the world many investors and 81 00:04:05.203 --> 00:04:07.163 companies are really focused on. 82 00:04:07.163 --> 00:04:09.040 So it's an exciting time, I would say. 83 00:04:09.832 --> 00:04:10.750 Thank you, both, so much. 84 00:04:11.084 --> 00:04:12.210 Thank you.