WEBVTT 0f6bc608-2cfa-477b-88fe-8a2e6ce9d4a3-0 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.040 We're joined by Karan and Shashank. afb4da18-dfb5-4144-8799-e3caa35770c2-0 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:04.160 Shashank, tell us what you're doing at Heirloom. a153902a-4e6d-4093-9224-f3af22c7d013-0 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:05.000 Sure. 59f0795a-7e1d-4b7a-9267-5e72396a572a-0 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.666 At Heirloom we are trying to build a technology that can pull 59f0795a-7e1d-4b7a-9267-5e72396a572a-1 00:00:08.666 --> 00:00:11.909 billions of tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to 59f0795a-7e1d-4b7a-9267-5e72396a572a-2 00:00:11.909 --> 00:00:15.152 not just mitigate climate change, but actually reverse it 59f0795a-7e1d-4b7a-9267-5e72396a572a-3 00:00:15.152 --> 00:00:15.600 one day. fcd4e996-aa0f-4f39-a7fc-eb79a2c0f6f8-0 00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:19.365 So, you know, we're specifically working on a low-cost, fcd4e996-aa0f-4f39-a7fc-eb79a2c0f6f8-1 00:00:19.365 --> 00:00:21.800 limestone-based approach to pull carbon. 37e521c9-6137-4150-9e3e-78254f84e0af-0 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:24.677 You know, limestone has this natural ability to pull carbon 37e521c9-6137-4150-9e3e-78254f84e0af-1 00:00:24.677 --> 00:00:25.240 from the air. 31915f8e-1c0c-40d2-aad4-a16c88d62a62-0 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.729 We are building technology that basically gives limestone 31915f8e-1c0c-40d2-aad4-a16c88d62a62-1 00:00:28.729 --> 00:00:31.810 superpowers so you can capture carbon much, much faster at a 31915f8e-1c0c-40d2-aad4-a16c88d62a62-2 00:00:31.810 --> 00:00:32.720 much larger scale. 25571bca-0040-4296-a231-66fe0f65a1d2-0 00:00:32.800 --> 00:00:35.560 That's incredible to actually reverse climate change. bf6c9051-b413-4ec6-8c7e-2c141b36ff00-0 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:36.320 Exactly right. 9b5cebc4-1965-4954-bdf5-c3171655edfc-0 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.520 You know, it's, according to IPCC, 628d5fa8-c34c-4590-91eb-9fd81390e1c7-0 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:40.440 We can't just decarbonize. 2a411ad8-2f28-40b8-a5b6-b123260e2919-0 00:00:40.440 --> 00:00:42.200 You know, we have to decarbonize everything, right? e27c1a1e-a90f-4fe0-be19-d492fd76dfa1-0 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.758 We have to do aviation, shipping, concrete, steel, e27c1a1e-a90f-4fe0-be19-d492fd76dfa1-1 00:00:44.758 --> 00:00:45.360 agriculture. 673700e0-e481-41ff-858c-d38a0e38e961-0 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:47.520 You have to decarbonize as much as possible. ca43f1c2-7fef-4642-bcd0-0171d2cc068f-0 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.317 But we still have 10 billion tons of CO2 that's still ca43f1c2-7fef-4642-bcd0-0171d2cc068f-1 00:00:51.317 --> 00:00:53.120 remaining to get to net zero. 2e4714f3-4215-4960-8460-d033a7d5c1df-0 00:00:53.400 --> 00:00:55.400 And the way we get there is to remove it from the air. 5968aa48-df57-4f2b-9024-b115a5e820a3-0 00:00:55.400 --> 00:00:59.364 What policies and finance mechanisms are really driving, 5968aa48-df57-4f2b-9024-b115a5e820a3-1 00:00:59.364 --> 00:01:01.520 and also scaling, climate tech? 39e24783-a693-43d8-9d73-b8e74f33df94-0 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:02.640 Yeah, of course. 2fa32201-78a9-45ef-b7af-9082ee3ebf10-0 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.917 What we need to see is a move from the voluntary market, where 2fa32201-78a9-45ef-b7af-9082ee3ebf10-1 00:01:05.917 --> 00:01:08.987 people are choosing to pay for removing carbon dioxide, to 2fa32201-78a9-45ef-b7af-9082ee3ebf10-2 00:01:08.987 --> 00:01:10.600 something where it is mandated. aeebbb82-0fe4-438d-8a4b-372d4974dada-0 00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:13.397 That's how we will get to the gigaton scale that Shashank aeebbb82-0fe4-438d-8a4b-372d4974dada-1 00:01:13.397 --> 00:01:13.880 mentioned. 8d64a64c-94c9-433a-8210-f66f93f1a1a5-0 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.614 And we're looking at things like emissions trading schemes where 8d64a64c-94c9-433a-8210-f66f93f1a1a5-1 00:01:17.614 --> 00:01:21.108 you basically allow companies to emit up to a cap and then there 8d64a64c-94c9-433a-8210-f66f93f1a1a5-2 00:01:21.108 --> 00:01:24.387 are very harsh penalties or limits to what they can actually 8d64a64c-94c9-433a-8210-f66f93f1a1a5-3 00:01:24.387 --> 00:01:27.451 emit and they can figure out amongst themselves who does 8d64a64c-94c9-433a-8210-f66f93f1a1a5-4 00:01:27.451 --> 00:01:27.719 what. d35b87cc-f92f-4fb1-ac1a-5c485ef84115-0 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.036 There are also things like border adjustments, where if a d35b87cc-f92f-4fb1-ac1a-5c485ef84115-1 00:01:31.036 --> 00:01:34.492 high carbon-intensity product is coming into the country, there's d35b87cc-f92f-4fb1-ac1a-5c485ef84115-2 00:01:34.492 --> 00:01:37.319 going to be some fines or taxes associated with that. 38fa0928-7776-40d7-b06b-cffd37956fb3-0 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.697 Lastly, a lot of industry groups are looking at ways to promote 38fa0928-7776-40d7-b06b-cffd37956fb3-1 00:01:40.697 --> 00:01:43.620 the industry as a whole so that no one player is individually 38fa0928-7776-40d7-b06b-cffd37956fb3-2 00:01:43.620 --> 00:01:44.280 disadvantaged. ed5b578a-c41f-49e9-8e9b-571402842e9d-0 00:01:44.440 --> 00:01:47.000 Karan, Shashank, thanks very much for joining us. 9fce1c8f-833d-495a-a45d-4920df6352ef-0 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:47.800 Thanks for having me. ff216ec7-c65d-420b-812b-3f6a922ffeda-0 00:01:47.800 --> 00:01:48.160 Thank you.