WEBVTT ce8b3a76-1078-406b-991e-f4e3a48c0fbf-0 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.389 We're joined by Jeff and Cornelius. Jeff, tell us about B ce8b3a76-1078-406b-991e-f4e3a48c0fbf-1 00:00:03.389 --> 00:00:06.617 Capital and the work you're doing. ce8b3a76-1078-406b-991e-f4e3a48c0fbf-2 00:00:06.617 --> 00:00:08.840 - Absolutely. So, B Capital is a 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-0 00:00:09.490 --> 00:00:13.013 venture investment firm that's global in nature. We have 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-1 00:00:13.013 --> 00:00:17.031 offices across the US and Asia. Our focus ranges from early seed 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-2 00:00:17.031 --> 00:00:20.801 stage up and through growth. We have three main verticals we 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-3 00:00:20.801 --> 00:00:24.448 focus on, which is enterprise, technology, health care and 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-4 00:00:24.448 --> 00:00:28.218 climate. And my focus is really on the climate side, which I 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-5 00:00:28.218 --> 00:00:31.804 have recently joined to lead, and our focus in climate is 9bfbfb22-93c2-4386-9f55-c3a588419db8-6 00:00:31.804 --> 00:00:35.759 really on growth investments. So series of, stages B and beyond 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-0 00:00:37.230 --> 00:00:40.316 And what is sentiment like in the climate investment market at 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-1 00:00:40.316 --> 00:00:43.059 the moment, are people optimistic or cautious? 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-2 00:00:43.059 --> 00:00:46.292 - Cautiously optimistic? 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-3 00:00:46.292 --> 00:00:49.183 - That's a good get out clause. - I 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-4 00:00:49.183 --> 00:00:52.024 mean, look, the sector today, there's many, many positive 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-5 00:00:52.024 --> 00:00:55.061 things. We're seeing a lot of momentum behind great companies 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-6 00:00:55.061 --> 00:00:57.903 and great entrepreneurs. You know, companies are growing, 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-7 00:00:57.903 --> 00:01:00.891 they're deploying facilities, they've got customers that are 575d423b-73ef-4ef4-a614-5fe1dd47df0b-8 00:01:00.891 --> 00:01:03.880 buying. You know, capital is more challenging than it's been 49e95e69-03dc-4cb4-b193-0bf11cf7faa4-0 00:01:05.310 --> 00:01:08.735 in the past. And you know, these are just really hard industries 49e95e69-03dc-4cb4-b193-0bf11cf7faa4-1 00:01:08.735 --> 00:01:11.898 to innovate in. So as you move along, the challenges become 49e95e69-03dc-4cb4-b193-0bf11cf7faa4-2 00:01:11.898 --> 00:01:15.218 greater. So there's a lot of, again, opportunity and reason to 49e95e69-03dc-4cb4-b193-0bf11cf7faa4-3 00:01:15.218 --> 00:01:18.223 be excited, but there's a very long road ahead for these 49e95e69-03dc-4cb4-b193-0bf11cf7faa4-4 00:01:18.223 --> 00:01:19.329 companies to succeed. 89027847-5f1b-4a63-a6ea-439340fb549d-0 00:01:19.960 --> 00:01:22.944 And Cornelius, which bits of the market are doing really well at 89027847-5f1b-4a63-a6ea-439340fb549d-1 00:01:22.944 --> 00:01:23.450 the moment? 7b83eabb-93d2-44ee-a693-23319bf25189-0 00:01:24.380 --> 00:01:28.901 So, I mean we've seen tremendous development on the whole in 7b83eabb-93d2-44ee-a693-23319bf25189-1 00:01:28.901 --> 00:01:33.125 renewable generation, wind, solar, batteries, et cetera, 7b83eabb-93d2-44ee-a693-23319bf25189-2 00:01:33.125 --> 00:01:37.202 coming on the scale curve, et cetera, et cetera. Costs 7b83eabb-93d2-44ee-a693-23319bf25189-3 00:01:37.202 --> 00:01:41.797 plummeted, especially in solar PV. That is obviously a strong 7b83eabb-93d2-44ee-a693-23319bf25189-4 00:01:41.797 --> 00:01:44.540 foundation and now, you know, that's 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-0 00:01:45.590 --> 00:01:49.403 going to the next cycle, so to say. Where I'm particularly 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-1 00:01:49.403 --> 00:01:53.346 interested and excited about right now is, is heavy industry 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-2 00:01:53.346 --> 00:01:56.901 starting to get serious about decarbonization with new 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-3 00:01:56.901 --> 00:02:00.973 technologies, with, you know, flexible innovative solutions. A 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-4 00:02:00.973 --> 00:02:05.045 lot of this, you know, you can see in in the portfolio here at 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-5 00:02:05.045 --> 00:02:08.923 the Breakthrough Energy Summit and that is, you know, still 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-6 00:02:08.923 --> 00:02:12.931 small scale. You talked about, you know, how long it takes to 51d1a89b-705f-45ff-9483-5546d3a3f8a4-7 00:02:12.931 --> 00:02:15.840 to really, you know, come up the scale curve 146800c1-63f2-436e-9c68-52f456801089-0 00:02:15.970 --> 00:02:19.411 on those more complex solutions. And at the same time, I think 146800c1-63f2-436e-9c68-52f456801089-1 00:02:19.411 --> 00:02:22.962 the pace and, and the innovative power is quite breathtaking and 146800c1-63f2-436e-9c68-52f456801089-2 00:02:22.962 --> 00:02:23.399 amazing. 680e37cc-5128-46f0-ae89-e60f9404fa7b-0 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:26.823 And are there climate investments that you think are 680e37cc-5128-46f0-ae89-e60f9404fa7b-1 00:02:26.823 --> 00:02:28.370 being overlooked at the moment? 268ed76d-1055-4c11-b09d-17cf808fa895-0 00:02:29.320 --> 00:02:33.570 So I wouldn't say overlooked, but I think one of, one topic 268ed76d-1055-4c11-b09d-17cf808fa895-1 00:02:33.570 --> 00:02:38.033 that is I think on the cusp of becoming, you know, a real game 268ed76d-1055-4c11-b09d-17cf808fa895-2 00:02:38.033 --> 00:02:41.858 changer, especially in industrial decarbonization is, 268ed76d-1055-4c11-b09d-17cf808fa895-3 00:02:41.858 --> 00:02:46.179 is thermal or heat storage. And that is in a way the missing 268ed76d-1055-4c11-b09d-17cf808fa895-4 00:02:46.179 --> 00:02:47.030 link between 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-0 00:02:48.980 --> 00:02:53.141 volatile flexible fluctuating electricity and industry 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-1 00:02:53.141 --> 00:02:57.756 requiring continuous process heat and using that fluctuating 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-2 00:02:57.756 --> 00:03:02.749 electricity to generate the heat and then to kind of stabilize it 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-3 00:03:02.749 --> 00:03:07.667 on a 24-7, in a way, time scale with heat storage. That's pretty 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-4 00:03:07.667 --> 00:03:12.358 exciting. Some of the companies here are, are driving this. I 914836c0-fe82-4f0e-b742-5482b1518977-5 00:03:12.358 --> 00:03:14.250 think that's that's a big d36e4a3b-236e-4f6d-b94d-c635970091d9-0 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.667 step forward for making progress on decarbonizing the heavy d36e4a3b-236e-4f6d-b94d-c635970091d9-1 00:03:19.667 --> 00:03:20.990 emitting sectors. 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-0 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:26.061 - And Jeff? - 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-1 00:03:26.061 --> 00:03:29.507 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I agree with everything you said. I think 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-2 00:03:29.507 --> 00:03:33.064 there's a lot of exciting areas in all of these dimensions that 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-3 00:03:33.064 --> 00:03:36.676 are being worked on. I'd say one of the overlooked areas is more 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-4 00:03:36.676 --> 00:03:40.011 focused on growth capital. So there's a lot of money at the 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-5 00:03:40.011 --> 00:03:43.623 earlier stage. There's a lot of money for proven technologies to 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-6 00:03:43.623 --> 00:03:47.125 roll out as infrastructure. But to really support companies at 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-7 00:03:47.125 --> 00:03:50.348 this growth stage is something where there's a documented 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-8 00:03:50.348 --> 00:03:53.571 quantitative and qualitative view that there's not enough 57644c75-6c12-48bd-8b1c-12db5954d79a-9 00:03:53.571 --> 00:03:54.350 money flowing, 4eadb05d-b66b-47f4-9f0f-88b73e2f4e99-0 00:03:54.420 --> 00:03:57.701 which is what we're really trying to lean in and and work 4eadb05d-b66b-47f4-9f0f-88b73e2f4e99-1 00:03:57.701 --> 00:04:01.210 on. And so we're excited about that. In terms of sectors, you 4eadb05d-b66b-47f4-9f0f-88b73e2f4e99-2 00:04:01.210 --> 00:04:03.700 know, I'd say the one that has really been, 9b29c43d-798d-40bd-b8b4-a0564e5f0ad7-0 00:04:05.310 --> 00:04:08.546 you know, capital has flowed out of as the food and ag sector. 9b29c43d-798d-40bd-b8b4-a0564e5f0ad7-1 00:04:08.546 --> 00:04:11.371 And, you know, there's such a tremendous amount of, of 9b29c43d-798d-40bd-b8b4-a0564e5f0ad7-2 00:04:11.371 --> 00:04:14.453 innovation and opportunity in that, that I feel like that's 9b29c43d-798d-40bd-b8b4-a0564e5f0ad7-3 00:04:14.453 --> 00:04:17.638 poised for a comeback, but it's certainly still, some time to 9b29c43d-798d-40bd-b8b4-a0564e5f0ad7-4 00:04:17.638 --> 00:04:18.459 work through it. 2dd1b5ae-4cf8-41c0-bbab-7cd1c3bb8562-0 00:04:19.950 --> 00:04:22.225 - Jeff, Chris, thanks very much for joining us. 2dd1b5ae-4cf8-41c0-bbab-7cd1c3bb8562-1 00:04:22.225 --> 00:04:24.220 - Thank you. - Glad to be here. 2275027f-48c3-4a3e-b7f3-6680c62302dc-0 00:04:25.150 --> 00:04:28.740