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Maikel, Robert, welcome. Maikel, to you first:

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What role does digital public
infrastructure have to play in society?

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Yeah,
I think digital public infrastructure is

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always not an acronym that many people
will know,

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but it's the generic name for things like
digital identity, digital payment systems,

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et cetera, et cetera.

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It's kind of the fabric beyond the
connectivity that allows a digital

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society to function and to allow people
and businesses to connect with each other

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on identification, authentication,
payment, data exchange, et cetera,

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So it's a really essential part of
becoming a digital society.

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What role, I guess,
what opportunities is AI creating for DPI,

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Robert?

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Well, like Michael said,
DPI is really about integrating,

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really creating layers that are open,
they're interoperable.

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And so when it comes to artificial
intelligence,

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something like digital public
infrastructure can really enable

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effective, accurate, representative AI because
it can unlock more data.

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But also there's a reverse kind of relationship as well,

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which is that AI can make digital public infrastructure,

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which often involves digital public
services being delivered to people,

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AI can make those services more effective,
more efficient,

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and actually look for things like fraud
and other kinds of detection capabilities

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that really would flag anything
suspicious and just generally make those

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services more effective.

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What steps do you think that businesses
and governments can take to make AI a

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benefit for all?

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Yeah, so I think AI, a benefit for all,
really it starts with that safety and

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security that a good DPI infrastructure
will create.

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And getting on aligned standards,
on an aligned road map is really critical here.

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So that for me is step number one.

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And then step number two is for
governments to ensure that innovation can

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flourish and that we can get a virtuous
cycle of new business models,

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new data sources that will reinforce each other.

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Your view, Robert?

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Yeah, I would agree with that.

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I think, though,
for the work of the United Nations

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Development Programme,
we work with countries across the Global

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South, and the . . .
there's issues around things like data

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availability and accuracy.

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So we need to make sure that we're
unlocking the data that is there,

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so that the systems that serve those
countries are really much more representative.

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We also need to look everywhere at more
digital capacity, better skills,

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more capacity available in those
ecosystems to really work on AI,

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and interact with them in meaningful and
responsible ways.

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Robert, Maikel, a pleasure.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.