WEBVTT 64dc878b-61a5-4bcd-87c3-305318be3487-0 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:00.960 Raj, welcome. 56eb1974-4236-4a3b-aeab-531414994ba1-0 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:03.925 What does the venture capital landscape look like at the 56eb1974-4236-4a3b-aeab-531414994ba1-1 00:00:03.925 --> 00:00:04.280 moment? 16a94757-4955-45bc-97bb-c5b140a90c04-0 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:08.893 I think it's really been the last few years, VC has been in a 16a94757-4955-45bc-97bb-c5b140a90c04-1 00:00:08.893 --> 00:00:10.240 period of slow down. 71369060-cfcc-4888-b2cc-1b971e395ce7-0 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:11.800 It's a cyclical business. dda7e70f-a133-435d-b3c9-4abc2dfdc8fc-0 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:15.323 We tend to have these kind of seven-year booms and then a few dda7e70f-a133-435d-b3c9-4abc2dfdc8fc-1 00:00:15.323 --> 00:00:16.840 years where things slow down. 62236324-0bb8-4d0a-8352-ff384d5b791f-0 00:00:17.240 --> 00:00:20.338 What's really been exciting is since the start of this year in 62236324-0bb8-4d0a-8352-ff384d5b791f-1 00:00:20.338 --> 00:00:23.240 January, we've really seen the market starting to pick up. c37568b4-7c3f-4168-ae9c-f489f5c677b7-0 00:00:23.240 --> 00:00:27.250 I mean, one, there's been a secular tailwind driven by c37568b4-7c3f-4168-ae9c-f489f5c677b7-1 00:00:27.250 --> 00:00:29.000 generative AI from 2023. 1d7835c5-cae4-4d14-a6ef-af1aecd9e7a9-0 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.066 It's very exciting in terms of how do you invest in it and stay 1d7835c5-cae4-4d14-a6ef-af1aecd9e7a9-1 00:00:33.066 --> 00:00:34.280 away from the hype cycle. 71c56ae8-fcc3-40d5-a50f-c4a542050291-0 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.604 That's something that I think, as investors, we're very focused 71c56ae8-fcc3-40d5-a50f-c4a542050291-1 00:00:37.604 --> 00:00:37.760 on. bf06d54c-b18a-459c-be09-20ffbd09c6ab-0 00:00:38.120 --> 00:00:39.560 But it's beyond generative AI. 81da779d-8cd6-4e80-b4af-91cd88248fb1-0 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.641 You're starting to see spaces like biotech, which have really 81da779d-8cd6-4e80-b4af-91cd88248fb1-1 00:00:42.641 --> 00:00:45.822 been slow for three years, but where fundamental innovation has 81da779d-8cd6-4e80-b4af-91cd88248fb1-2 00:00:45.822 --> 00:00:46.320 continued. 72df4142-cbc6-4f17-a26f-cb12b4a34ffb-0 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.093 You're seeing biotech starting to come back. A lot of corporate 72df4142-cbc6-4f17-a26f-cb12b4a34ffb-1 00:00:50.093 --> 00:00:51.640 M&A interest around biotech. f0152f9c-e7b6-440a-8af4-961e63ad964c-0 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.078 And I think there's some geographic interest in markets f0152f9c-e7b6-440a-8af4-961e63ad964c-1 00:00:55.078 --> 00:00:58.420 like India where there's a lot of belief around some of the f0152f9c-e7b6-440a-8af4-961e63ad964c-2 00:00:58.420 --> 00:01:01.929 reforms the country's made and some of the amazing talent that f0152f9c-e7b6-440a-8af4-961e63ad964c-3 00:01:01.929 --> 00:01:03.600 the Indian tech ecosystem has. c5217a2f-fdeb-4646-b745-e9771ae01a37-0 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:06.360 Can we go into more detail about AI, GenAI, c0312424-9942-40d4-95a4-2ea119dfa09e-0 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:10.240 new technologies, how they are changing that landscape? 351de2df-4f74-4768-99a2-7d3858e2ad41-0 00:01:10.240 --> 00:01:11.800 I suppose the opportunities, the challenges? 5cd1eadb-3c51-4772-9ff9-9c471a58b774-0 00:01:12.320 --> 00:01:12.880 Yeah, I mean, GenAI e85d5f01-cf90-4b61-9275-a5f8db953bef-0 00:01:12.960 --> 00:01:14.200 is really early. 741e5848-3212-4354-8c3d-723251b941e4-0 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:15.400 It's in its evolution. 916acdbe-1f99-4dcc-b54d-764dd7a07c9a-0 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.769 If you think about it, there's the, fundamental infrastructure 916acdbe-1f99-4dcc-b54d-764dd7a07c9a-1 00:01:18.769 --> 00:01:20.000 layer of generative AI. c62ff955-137a-4238-b1e0-cdec1be717fb-0 00:01:20.360 --> 00:01:23.277 And then on top of that infrastructure layer, there will c62ff955-137a-4238-b1e0-cdec1be717fb-1 00:01:23.277 --> 00:01:25.836 be an application layer. There'll be a horizontal c62ff955-137a-4238-b1e0-cdec1be717fb-2 00:01:25.836 --> 00:01:28.600 application layer and verticalized application layer. 02301119-314d-454d-8c53-76edfb3bab4e-0 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:30.080 But we're very early. 19ed676b-66bd-4da8-812d-6366762ce9ed-0 00:01:30.080 --> 00:01:34.560 We're still in the stage of building the chips. 84d3b3bc-f7ec-4063-a2f3-74a218abf3c8-0 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:37.846 We're still in the stage of building that fundamental 84d3b3bc-f7ec-4063-a2f3-74a218abf3c8-1 00:01:37.846 --> 00:01:39.000 infrastructure layer. 78723742-acf9-426c-aaab-7f5a1fb9b502-0 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:42.857 I think there's a few companies that are clearly early leaders 78723742-acf9-426c-aaab-7f5a1fb9b502-1 00:01:42.857 --> 00:01:45.760 in this space, but it's gonna be a big ecosystem. c945b733-3f64-401e-b998-d72e0488eecb-0 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:50.644 There's a lot of opportunities to build AI tools around coding, c945b733-3f64-401e-b998-d72e0488eecb-1 00:01:50.644 --> 00:01:51.560 development. f5eb6e87-a9a8-4383-ab56-b01f48e684e5-0 00:01:51.960 --> 00:01:55.486 There's a lot of opportunities to build copilot tools, and f5eb6e87-a9a8-4383-ab56-b01f48e684e5-1 00:01:55.486 --> 00:01:57.280 we're early in that ecosystem. 00edda86-e3cd-42b3-a05a-d853fb5ef857-0 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.203 I think in 2025, you'll really start to see the application AI 00edda86-e3cd-42b3-a05a-d853fb5ef857-1 00:02:02.203 --> 00:02:07.049 layer also start to take off. And it's, in terms of investing 00edda86-e3cd-42b3-a05a-d853fb5ef857-2 00:02:07.049 --> 00:02:07.440 in it 2ad6c327-da6e-40c9-9283-dd26bd2ff5d6-0 00:02:07.440 --> 00:02:09.000 right now, valuations are high. aa8f1db3-f9c4-4214-b18a-b89634480973-0 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.520 There's a lot of excitement about it. bc3b3d08-1a0d-4c58-bae5-fb47e4cfe446-0 00:02:10.920 --> 00:02:13.897 And I think as investors, we have to choose carefully and bc3b3d08-1a0d-4c58-bae5-fb47e4cfe446-1 00:02:13.897 --> 00:02:17.131 there's a lot of excitement to partner with corporates in this bc3b3d08-1a0d-4c58-bae5-fb47e4cfe446-2 00:02:17.131 --> 00:02:17.440 space. 28539f4f-a718-491d-bae3-63a2f4f8bc6d-0 00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:21.493 And it's a place where I think BCG is really doing a lot of 28539f4f-a718-491d-bae3-63a2f4f8bc6d-1 00:02:21.493 --> 00:02:23.400 differentiated things around AI. 0beb3272-cde4-4c18-89cc-89480d9fd83e-0 00:02:24.440 --> 00:02:27.832 Talk me through your decision making when it comes to making 0beb3272-cde4-4c18-89cc-89480d9fd83e-1 00:02:27.832 --> 00:02:29.000 investment decisions. aae97e65-12af-4788-bbe9-bd73373ec146-0 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:30.160 Has it changed? 574c04a3-262c-4a84-9741-c6ccd4b23505-0 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:32.200 How do you keep a lid on the excitement, as you mentioned? d377212b-d48f-4749-91d5-5b79ec6b940f-0 00:02:32.200 --> 00:02:35.888 I think our investment process has always been pretty d377212b-d48f-4749-91d5-5b79ec6b940f-1 00:02:35.888 --> 00:02:36.640 consistent. 8213a7ea-b402-43e2-9ee9-2623b4591bc5-0 00:02:36.640 --> 00:02:39.480 It starts with great, great founders and great teams. 8e0c786f-f5fe-4198-88b3-5a2bdc7914d7-0 00:02:39.920 --> 00:02:43.205 While we, yes, we are venture capitalists and we invest in new 8e0c786f-f5fe-4198-88b3-5a2bdc7914d7-1 00:02:43.205 --> 00:02:45.760 technologies, fundamentally we invest in people. c4ed12a3-4f30-4d0d-9e92-3535a54d9b9f-0 00:02:46.040 --> 00:02:49.433 So we focus a lot on the team. On the venture side of our c4ed12a3-4f30-4d0d-9e92-3535a54d9b9f-1 00:02:49.433 --> 00:02:49.960 business, e3ffadf2-15c0-4694-970e-ba7e33566a4e-0 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:53.374 We're willing to invest pre-product and in people with e3ffadf2-15c0-4694-970e-ba7e33566a4e-1 00:02:53.374 --> 00:02:54.120 great ideas. 965f1594-e1f9-473f-b787-78ea8049d00d-0 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.714 But when we do that, it has to be people who we really believe 965f1594-e1f9-473f-b787-78ea8049d00d-1 00:02:57.714 --> 00:03:01.081 have the track record, who have the skill set in this very 965f1594-e1f9-473f-b787-78ea8049d00d-2 00:03:01.081 --> 00:03:01.880 nascent space. 60cfd299-481f-409d-8efc-1e2d313dc882-0 00:03:01.880 --> 00:03:04.692 Then we look at the product, if there is a product, there's not 60cfd299-481f-409d-8efc-1e2d313dc882-1 00:03:04.692 --> 00:03:05.440 always a product. adf126e5-731c-46d1-8496-4bdcf280154c-0 00:03:05.720 --> 00:03:09.269 And if it's a company that has commercial traction, we focus a adf126e5-731c-46d1-8496-4bdcf280154c-1 00:03:09.269 --> 00:03:12.762 lot on whether that commercial traction is really coming from adf126e5-731c-46d1-8496-4bdcf280154c-2 00:03:12.762 --> 00:03:16.255 just acquiring expensive new customers or if it's coming from adf126e5-731c-46d1-8496-4bdcf280154c-3 00:03:16.255 --> 00:03:17.719 a lot of repeat purchases. 4cf828f3-3cd0-43dd-b2f2-60fb987ed80b-0 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.373 We always put a little bit more emphasis in terms of being able 4cf828f3-3cd0-43dd-b2f2-60fb987ed80b-1 00:03:21.373 --> 00:03:24.466 to grow your share of wallet with your existing customers 4cf828f3-3cd0-43dd-b2f2-60fb987ed80b-2 00:03:24.466 --> 00:03:27.879 because that's a great sign that your product is something that 4cf828f3-3cd0-43dd-b2f2-60fb987ed80b-3 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.133 customers, after they try it out, are willing to continue to 4cf828f3-3cd0-43dd-b2f2-60fb987ed80b-4 00:03:31.133 --> 00:03:31.559 pay for. 1d25da7d-bf2c-4d1a-87f1-3c23644d545f-0 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:33.600 Raj, a pleasure as always. 0b84810f-fd1f-475f-8d42-f7240266f43c-0 00:03:33.600 --> 00:03:34.200 Thank you so much. 3d61cda5-910f-425b-ba82-b1d6f1ccfdf1-0 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:35.400 Thank you for having me.