WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.275 --> 00:00:03.420 (bright music) 2 00:00:03.420 --> 00:00:04.830 Hi, Ronald. 3 00:00:04.830 --> 00:00:06.060 Well, thank you very much 4 00:00:06.060 --> 00:00:08.550 for having us in this beautiful building at Heineken 5 00:00:08.550 --> 00:00:09.750 and thanks for 6 00:00:09.750 --> 00:00:12.900 sharing some perspective on Heineken's data and AI journey. 7 00:00:12.900 --> 00:00:16.350 First, for the very few who don't know Heineken, 8 00:00:16.350 --> 00:00:19.830 can you tell us a little bit about the company's history? 9 00:00:19.830 --> 00:00:23.520 We are a 160-year-old startup, 10 00:00:23.520 --> 00:00:27.780 still family-controlled, so a proud and independent brewer, 11 00:00:27.780 --> 00:00:31.170 and I think everybody will know us for the Heineken brand, 12 00:00:31.170 --> 00:00:33.150 but actually we have over 400 brands 13 00:00:33.150 --> 00:00:36.903 that we sell in pretty much every country in the world. 14 00:00:37.800 --> 00:00:39.030 Why is data 15 00:00:39.030 --> 00:00:42.720 and AI critical for a consumer goods company like Heineken? 16 00:00:42.720 --> 00:00:45.570 I think every CPG has always tried to find the balance 17 00:00:45.570 --> 00:00:48.732 between experience, a bit of intuition, 18 00:00:48.732 --> 00:00:52.740 and a bit of market data to take the right decisions. 19 00:00:52.740 --> 00:00:56.430 But the amount of data nowadays available is just crazy. 20 00:00:56.430 --> 00:00:58.260 I think it was 2001, 21 00:00:58.260 --> 00:01:01.020 over 20 years ago, when the word "big data" was 22 00:01:01.020 --> 00:01:02.190 invented by Garner. 23 00:01:02.190 --> 00:01:06.360 But the real explosion of data, at least 24 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:09.000 for a company like Heineken, came maybe in the last 25 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:10.440 decade, last five years. 26 00:01:10.440 --> 00:01:13.320 And not only when large companies start to do ERP 27 00:01:13.320 --> 00:01:16.530 with internal data, but with IoT connecting, 28 00:01:16.530 --> 00:01:18.360 getting data from cash registers, 29 00:01:18.360 --> 00:01:20.850 getting data from our fridges in the marketplace. 30 00:01:20.850 --> 00:01:24.420 We have almost 200 billion data elements streaming out 31 00:01:24.420 --> 00:01:26.100 of our manufacturing footprint, 32 00:01:26.100 --> 00:01:27.900 out of machines into our own cloud. 33 00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:29.910 So there's so much data available, 34 00:01:29.910 --> 00:01:32.550 and now with AI, it is not just data; 35 00:01:32.550 --> 00:01:34.590 we can create actionable insights. 36 00:01:34.590 --> 00:01:37.200 Can you tell us a little bit more about that journey, 37 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.620 but also about where you have seen the most 38 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:42.270 value-creating opportunities? 39 00:01:42.270 --> 00:01:45.270 We have a very, very fragmented tech landscape 40 00:01:45.270 --> 00:01:48.510 still, ripping out an old landscape and replacing it, 41 00:01:48.510 --> 00:01:51.743 but that takes, well, six, seven, eight years, 42 00:01:51.743 --> 00:01:53.523 and we do not have the time. 43 00:01:54.690 --> 00:01:57.960 So we try to find a way to accelerate, 44 00:01:57.960 --> 00:02:00.180 to fast-track data and AI. 45 00:02:00.180 --> 00:02:03.000 And the second thing is, it's also about prioritization. 46 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:04.470 You need to be deliberate. 47 00:02:04.470 --> 00:02:06.180 We did a ton of experimentation 48 00:02:06.180 --> 00:02:09.900 and also with help from BCG, but let's prioritize 49 00:02:09.900 --> 00:02:13.140 where the key value buckets and where can we scale? 50 00:02:13.140 --> 00:02:16.470 So what are the five, six big things that we now do 51 00:02:16.470 --> 00:02:19.980 that we really try to drive hard across Heineken? 52 00:02:19.980 --> 00:02:22.276 What would be the top things where you've seen 53 00:02:22.276 --> 00:02:24.540 disproportionate value creation? 54 00:02:24.540 --> 00:02:27.030 Where we see the biggest opportunity 55 00:02:27.030 --> 00:02:29.239 and that we are pursuing hard is one, 56 00:02:29.239 --> 00:02:31.110 around revenue management. 57 00:02:31.110 --> 00:02:36.110 So things like promo AI, how do you optimize your promos, 58 00:02:36.210 --> 00:02:37.770 get better return on investments, 59 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:38.940 and where do you invest? 60 00:02:38.940 --> 00:02:42.570 Number two for us, very important, is marketing mix, 61 00:02:42.570 --> 00:02:44.580 actually commercial mix optimization. 62 00:02:44.580 --> 00:02:46.896 So we spend billions, as you can imagine, 63 00:02:46.896 --> 00:02:50.400 on all our beautiful brands, which is super complex. 64 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.950 There's a lot of touch points, a lot of brands, 65 00:02:52.950 --> 00:02:54.990 a lot of regions or provinces. 66 00:02:54.990 --> 00:02:57.335 The third big one is around sales execution. 67 00:02:57.335 --> 00:03:00.240 That is from promo recommendation to routing 68 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.070 and scripting of our sales reps, helping them 69 00:03:02.070 --> 00:03:04.590 to have good conversations online and offline. 70 00:03:04.590 --> 00:03:06.450 And of course also big is manufacturing. 71 00:03:06.450 --> 00:03:09.240 It is how we optimize machines and packaging lines 72 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:10.410 and even complete brewers. 73 00:03:10.410 --> 00:03:11.640 And that's logical, right? 74 00:03:11.640 --> 00:03:13.500 It is around sales, it's around marketing, 75 00:03:13.500 --> 00:03:15.960 it's around revenue, it's around manufacturing. 76 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:17.130 That's also where a lot 77 00:03:17.130 --> 00:03:20.400 of companies have their biggest cost base or revenue base. 78 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.950 With generative AI, there's been a very, very big wave 79 00:03:22.950 --> 00:03:26.310 of interest, investments, a new wave of experimentation. 80 00:03:26.310 --> 00:03:29.670 What do you see in the let's say medium term 81 00:03:29.670 --> 00:03:32.040 of your journey when it comes to AI? 82 00:03:32.040 --> 00:03:34.271 For us, the Holy Grail will be also 83 00:03:34.271 --> 00:03:36.624 in the creative side of things. 84 00:03:36.624 --> 00:03:39.540 The brand building, even films, 85 00:03:39.540 --> 00:03:43.290 digital assets online, going from maybe 50 assets 86 00:03:43.290 --> 00:03:45.930 that we can bring today to life on Formula One 87 00:03:45.930 --> 00:03:48.420 in a weekend to thousands. 88 00:03:48.420 --> 00:03:51.000 At the same time, I really see a big step 89 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.128 where GenAI will drive change. 90 00:03:53.128 --> 00:03:55.795 (bright music)