WEBVTT 878d382f-d582-4e37-b63a-647905ed394f-0 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.840 David, welcome. 0ba0523b-5ed1-49f5-9dc3-ab9fb4cb76e9-0 00:00:01.160 --> 00:00:01.960 It's great to be here. 4f1051e0-854a-42ce-bfbf-7d4f1f207cab-0 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:04.360 What's Vista's view on the current software market? c9631903-f83e-4323-91a0-5cf232fb3bce-0 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:06.320 You still seeing opportunities to invest? 321766c5-1b11-453d-ad28-dffc088d036f-0 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.780 We are, we've been actually quite excited and the last 18 321766c5-1b11-453d-ad28-dffc088d036f-1 00:00:10.780 --> 00:00:13.840 months I would say it was a tale of two markets. c236dd5c-6b33-4de1-909d-bcb517dc5f56-0 00:00:14.680 --> 00:00:18.083 At the larger end of the market, we've seen great opportunities c236dd5c-6b33-4de1-909d-bcb517dc5f56-1 00:00:18.083 --> 00:00:19.200 in the public market. d286bfd4-74ca-472b-b303-bd7892b471dd-0 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:22.148 So our flagship fund, the first five transactions where I'll d286bfd4-74ca-472b-b303-bd7892b471dd-1 00:00:22.148 --> 00:00:23.840 take privates of public companies. c2039a20-b5a2-4947-8339-9b1291a8337e-0 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:25.800 So we saw real value. 2d23e869-4a7b-43c0-9cac-988180537251-0 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:29.045 We saw the ability to buy some fantastic companies at what we 2d23e869-4a7b-43c0-9cac-988180537251-1 00:00:29.045 --> 00:00:30.720 thought were appropriate prices. 02f76d2c-01b9-4358-b273-d3ae19dd3800-0 00:00:32.120 --> 00:00:34.338 I would say a year ago we were struggling a little bit in the 02f76d2c-01b9-4358-b273-d3ae19dd3800-1 00:00:34.338 --> 00:00:34.840 middle market. 37dfe94e-a544-4c69-bfcd-689bb0dd3618-0 00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:38.709 The valuation expectations of sellers were really disconnected 37dfe94e-a544-4c69-bfcd-689bb0dd3618-1 00:00:38.709 --> 00:00:40.760 from the environment that we're in. 01168a05-8e09-43e4-b6b8-7f9d039dc08a-0 00:00:41.400 --> 00:00:44.040 But we've really seen that gap narrow. 2f9b145c-0d41-474f-a8f1-0f0aff0f85d8-0 00:00:44.040 --> 00:00:47.501 And so I'd say our pipeline on the private side in the middle 2f9b145c-0d41-474f-a8f1-0f0aff0f85d8-1 00:00:47.501 --> 00:00:51.018 market and lower middle market we've really seen start to pick 2f9b145c-0d41-474f-a8f1-0f0aff0f85d8-2 00:00:51.018 --> 00:00:51.800 up and expand. d22cd356-4848-477e-9dc8-b02beb7da6b2-0 00:00:51.800 --> 00:00:56.163 And you know it's a firm we have funds that really track every d22cd356-4848-477e-9dc8-b02beb7da6b2-1 00:00:56.163 --> 00:00:57.480 part of the market. 695f87c8-b642-406f-b209-60b5b0e05ed6-0 00:00:57.480 --> 00:01:00.520 So our middle market fund and our lower middle market fund I 695f87c8-b642-406f-b209-60b5b0e05ed6-1 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.362 think are seeing a lot more opportunities than they were 695f87c8-b642-406f-b209-60b5b0e05ed6-2 00:01:03.362 --> 00:01:06.602 seeing 18 months ago where they thought we could buy really good 695f87c8-b642-406f-b209-60b5b0e05ed6-3 00:01:06.602 --> 00:01:09.543 companies at more appropriate valuations than than what we 695f87c8-b642-406f-b209-60b5b0e05ed6-4 00:01:09.543 --> 00:01:10.839 were seeing 18 months ago. bbe9564d-d3c0-464b-a229-95f21a8ce91e-0 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.296 Within enterprise software, what developments are you bbe9564d-d3c0-464b-a229-95f21a8ce91e-1 00:01:13.296 --> 00:01:15.160 particularly keeping your eye on at the moment? 25bb46c8-b0fc-4e1d-bea1-9ec90cd1f798-0 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.601 So for sure the biggest development right now is 25bb46c8-b0fc-4e1d-bea1-9ec90cd1f798-1 00:01:18.601 --> 00:01:21.701 generative AI and it's really going to have effects in 25bb46c8-b0fc-4e1d-bea1-9ec90cd1f798-2 00:01:21.701 --> 00:01:24.520 software across a number of different dimensions. 87ee9e19-8435-4b99-b9f7-791cd36f1373-0 00:01:24.520 --> 00:01:28.412 So you know one of the big impacts is going to be on the 87ee9e19-8435-4b99-b9f7-791cd36f1373-1 00:01:28.412 --> 00:01:31.280 actual operations of a software business. 8e35767c-ae5c-4e65-ad88-ad656329c24b-0 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.056 So how code is written, how customer service is delivered, 8e35767c-ae5c-4e65-ad88-ad656329c24b-1 00:01:35.056 --> 00:01:38.320 there's significant opportunities to really change 8e35767c-ae5c-4e65-ad88-ad656329c24b-2 00:01:38.320 --> 00:01:42.544 the cost structure of a software business by the incorporation of 8e35767c-ae5c-4e65-ad88-ad656329c24b-3 00:01:42.544 --> 00:01:43.440 generative AI. e87b0131-92c8-4876-bd76-717f264f36c2-0 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.640 But even more than that is really on the product side. 630be72a-a494-48fa-a239-76431ae5a551-0 00:01:47.160 --> 00:01:50.831 Most of our companies are going to be infusing generative AI 630be72a-a494-48fa-a239-76431ae5a551-1 00:01:50.831 --> 00:01:54.142 features into their products, making them more sticky, 630be72a-a494-48fa-a239-76431ae5a551-2 00:01:54.142 --> 00:01:57.393 expanding their total addressable market, making them 630be72a-a494-48fa-a239-76431ae5a551-3 00:01:57.393 --> 00:01:59.440 more valuable to their customers. 6ac0d2b1-2c83-4411-9428-f79385013bcd-0 00:01:59.880 --> 00:02:03.046 And so I think it's going to really over the next three or 6ac0d2b1-2c83-4411-9428-f79385013bcd-1 00:02:03.046 --> 00:02:06.426 four years you're going to just see significant changes in how 6ac0d2b1-2c83-4411-9428-f79385013bcd-2 00:02:06.426 --> 00:02:09.485 people interact with software based on the enablement of 6ac0d2b1-2c83-4411-9428-f79385013bcd-3 00:02:09.485 --> 00:02:10.720 generative AI products. 3424e54d-8a5d-4db5-847a-5b2b4e3799fc-0 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:13.638 And we've we've got some companies doing some really 3424e54d-8a5d-4db5-847a-5b2b4e3799fc-1 00:02:13.638 --> 00:02:14.520 exciting things. 83f8b15c-d30d-4d2e-b50d-23c2f4a5d108-0 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.249 More broadly, how is this defining success during market 83f8b15c-d30d-4d2e-b50d-23c2f4a5d108-1 00:02:17.249 --> 00:02:17.680 slowdown? 025e092e-429b-434a-9043-270c8e7f9236-0 00:02:18.640 --> 00:02:21.962 Well, you know what's interesting for us is there's 025e092e-429b-434a-9043-270c8e7f9236-1 00:02:21.962 --> 00:02:25.988 obviously been an industry trend around the need for liquidity 025e092e-429b-434a-9043-270c8e7f9236-2 00:02:25.988 --> 00:02:29.759 and and a lot of the private equity industry, I think last 025e092e-429b-434a-9043-270c8e7f9236-3 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:33.465 year they were down about 44% in terms of realizations or 025e092e-429b-434a-9043-270c8e7f9236-4 00:02:33.465 --> 00:02:34.360 distributions. 3b9d84c8-ca98-4e55-93bb-136e48801b08-0 00:02:34.760 --> 00:02:37.360 We as a firm we're actually up 48%. e3bfa46b-e00c-4486-af37-7e9df12a0d76-0 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:41.360 So we had a very successful last 18 months in terms of exit e3bfa46b-e00c-4486-af37-7e9df12a0d76-1 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:45.693 transactions and I think that's largely attributable to the fact e3bfa46b-e00c-4486-af37-7e9df12a0d76-2 00:02:45.693 --> 00:02:49.493 that we buy good companies and help them really be great e3bfa46b-e00c-4486-af37-7e9df12a0d76-3 00:02:49.493 --> 00:02:50.160 companies. ed4cdbc5-90e1-4d38-8e80-99d872d977c6-0 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.816 And when you build really strong operationally strong companies, ed4cdbc5-90e1-4d38-8e80-99d872d977c6-1 00:02:53.816 --> 00:02:55.440 lots of people want to buy them. 355abd4a-81f2-48fb-95d0-038357e4bcb0-0 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.502 And so you know we've had interesting exits where we sold 355abd4a-81f2-48fb-95d0-038357e4bcb0-1 00:02:59.502 --> 00:03:03.485 Apptio to IBM in a strategic transaction. Cvent was taken 355abd4a-81f2-48fb-95d0-038357e4bcb0-2 00:03:03.485 --> 00:03:07.400 private by Blackstone, so kind of a sponsor transaction. 8e315a4a-1ed6-4e13-97c1-742af6b71db3-0 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.745 Some of our public companies we've been you know selling in 8e315a4a-1ed6-4e13-97c1-742af6b71db3-1 00:03:11.745 --> 00:03:12.680 secondary sales. 15059591-7a1d-4b00-9b8d-ecc46f5fb73a-0 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.604 So it's really it's been interesting that we've I think 15059591-7a1d-4b00-9b8d-ecc46f5fb73a-1 00:03:15.604 --> 00:03:18.946 last year we generated a little over 8 1/2 billion of liquidity 15059591-7a1d-4b00-9b8d-ecc46f5fb73a-2 00:03:18.946 --> 00:03:21.505 through a whole variety of different transaction 15059591-7a1d-4b00-9b8d-ecc46f5fb73a-3 00:03:21.505 --> 00:03:22.079 structures. aa011d66-35c3-4191-9db5-1710c6b380d3-0 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:22.440 So. 92da7963-d8fc-427f-a57b-d5472107f97f-0 00:03:23.040 --> 00:03:24.720 So I think, you know, we just can. 2307d72c-2f2e-4e85-bd06-8378c4d74cb2-0 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:28.079 I think the world, there's no company that doesn't believe 2307d72c-2f2e-4e85-bd06-8378c4d74cb2-1 00:03:28.079 --> 00:03:30.080 they need more digitization, right? 249f4d89-7769-4d15-98cc-59ff0d70245d-0 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:33.360 Like the world is just becoming more and more digital. c761ee33-5815-4e32-a890-00701dfabf7b-0 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.320 Generative AI is obviously an accelerant of that. ba0df8c5-d15c-4546-96a0-74e6d0dc9a1b-0 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.206 And so because you know, our companies fundamentally help ba0df8c5-d15c-4546-96a0-74e6d0dc9a1b-1 00:03:39.206 --> 00:03:42.848 industries digitize, there's just lots of strong tailwinds in ba0df8c5-d15c-4546-96a0-74e6d0dc9a1b-2 00:03:42.848 --> 00:03:44.200 the industry generally. 28375787-4c66-49ad-b4ff-10f7219e9a82-0 00:03:44.600 --> 00:03:45.720 David, thank you so much. 9f0b441b-c779-4fae-a4d9-191cfd522f4c-0 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:46.840 It's great to be here. 94ab75e6-9dac-4435-99d4-318405b72770-0 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:47.280 Thank you.