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<v ->The world at the moment</v>

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is a talk of decarbonizing logistics,

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shipping, road transport, and also air travel.

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But you have a different twist on this topic.

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Can you talk a little bit about what you mean

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about using logistics for decarbonization?

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<v ->The logistics component is often coming</v>

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as an afterthought.

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You first think about technology

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that can move things forward,

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how we can remove carbon from the atmosphere.

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Great approaches, great innovations,

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but how do you actually move the things that you need

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to put in place from A to B?

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That is usually disregarded and that's where we come in.

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<v ->We talk a lot about scaling of the transition</v>

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and scaling of those technologies.

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How do you think about this whole scaling topic

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and how logistics can actually help with that challenge?

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<v ->We have good technologies,</v>

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again, in the carbon removal sphere.

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All these technologies work a little bit in isolation

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at the moment, and the question is how you bring that

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into a working mode

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where a whole economy can basically switch

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to this new technology

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and have a mega-impact on carbon removal.

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And that requires completely new supply chains,

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completely new logistics systems that we don't have today.

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And that is the big task of the future that we try

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to push into the discussions early on.

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<v ->What is the one thing that logistics providers can do</v>

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to actually accelerate this?

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<v ->I would encourage logistics leaders to invest boldly</v>

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into fast-growing logistics regions

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who are embarking on a climate transformation journey.

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Even though it is an investment today,

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it will pay off in better environmental outputs tomorrow

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and also in better economics

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because you can benefit a lot

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from the first mover advantage.

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So I encourage you to make those moves

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and to put logistics considerations

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at the forefront of your thinking.

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