WEBVTT 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:05.880 Between 1995 and 2008, the UK manufacturing sector more than doubled its 00:00:05.880 --> 00:00:09.560 productivity and was a major contributor to the UK economy. 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:12.880 But since 2008, productivity has flatlined. 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:16.040 Meanwhile, the global frontier, driven by the likes 00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:19.040 of the US, Switzerland and Denmark has continued to advance, 00:00:19.360 --> 00:00:22.680 meaning the UK has fallen further behind the best in the world. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.680 But is it all bad news for UK manufacturing? 00:00:28.680 --> 00:00:30.080 I'm joined by Arjun - 00:00:30.080 --> 00:00:32.880 manufacturing sector expert and Managing Director 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.880 and Partner here in our BCG London office to discuss. 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.360 When you look at the most productive UK manufacturing firms, 00:00:39.360 --> 00:00:42.760 how do they compare to the best globally and what are they doing differently? 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:48.400 So the most productive manufacturing firms in the UK are roughly 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:51.760 as productive as the most productive manufacturing firms globally. 00:00:52.160 --> 00:00:55.360 So the top of the line in the UK is still 00:00:55.440 --> 00:00:58.560 as good as anywhere else in the world. 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:03.600 It's more the laggards that have been drawing down the average, so to speak. 00:01:04.880 --> 00:01:06.840 And what have these companies been doing differently? 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:12.120 These companies, one, have found a very specific niche 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:15.360 in which they are number one, two or three globally, 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:20.600 right. Two, I think by and large, they play the product quality 00:01:20.600 --> 00:01:24.120 differentiation role rather than the cost differentiation role, 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:27.000 which I think makes a very big difference because in the UK, 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:30.360 I think it is very difficult to compete on cost alone. 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.200 Right. 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:35.200 And three, I think these companies, if you take a look at, 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:38.280 they've all got a certain 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:41.280 aspect of high technology attached to them 00:01:41.600 --> 00:01:44.280 and hence as industries globally 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:48.440 get more technology oriented, these companies have a natural advantage. 00:01:48.440 --> 00:01:49.000 Right. 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.640 And these could be in high-end automotive, luxury automotive. 00:01:53.800 --> 00:01:56.280 High end components for aerospace, 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.240 a lot of very specialised components, 00:01:59.240 --> 00:02:02.400 like even simple things you would think like pumps and gears. 00:02:03.160 --> 00:02:05.800 Which are used heavily in a lot of process industries. 00:02:05.800 --> 00:02:08.800 The UK has got a couple of companies that are simply the best in the world at it. 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:14.800 So this, this, this differentiation is absolutely key. Across the sector 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.000 we see lots of firms that know what good looks like 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.920 and know what the global best is, but struggle to get there. 00:02:19.920 --> 00:02:21.600 What holds them back? 00:02:21.600 --> 00:02:25.240 So in the last five years, as you know, there have been many more, six years, 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.920 there's been many more crises than one could count, right, between Covid 00:02:28.920 --> 00:02:32.880 and the Ukraine crisis and the interest rates going up. 00:02:32.880 --> 00:02:34.840 And, you know, now what we're seeing in the Middle East. 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.400 So investment in general is difficult to come by, right? 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.360 We also see that a lot of these firms, 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:45.160 you know, the manufacturing firms that are highly specialised 00:02:45.160 --> 00:02:46.600 manufacturing firms in the UK 00:02:46.600 --> 00:02:50.160 have been investing a lot to protect their supply chains rather than to grow. 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:51.600 Right. 00:02:51.600 --> 00:02:54.960 So a lot of their sustaining CapEx goes into that, which obviously leads 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.520 to a position where you are staying still, but you're not really growing. 00:02:59.880 --> 00:03:00.240 Right. 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.240 And I think that is a big gap between 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.240 the answer we know and how to get there. 00:03:06.480 --> 00:03:11.400 Given the global productivity frontier does continue to advance in manufacturing, 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.440 what is the one thing that UK firms can take from the likes 00:03:14.440 --> 00:03:17.440 of US, Swiss and Danish firms, 00:03:17.760 --> 00:03:20.240 if they want to catch up or keep up with the best. 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.800 So I'll give you two. One on the, on the revenue side of things, 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:29.240 I think, organisations really need to find their niche 00:03:29.480 --> 00:03:33.320 and their strategic positioning very, very carefully. 00:03:33.920 --> 00:03:36.320 And we have to differentiate on quality, 00:03:37.320 --> 00:03:39.600 because cost differentiation, as I said, is hard to do. 00:03:39.600 --> 00:03:40.440 Right? 00:03:40.440 --> 00:03:45.920 I think, secondly, we need to massively increase 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:49.920 our investments in technology, both industrial technology, 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:54.200 which is how automated plants are and, how much, 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.680 IT/OT is present in, in manufacturing plants, 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:02.600 but also in managerial technology, which is where a lot 00:04:02.600 --> 00:04:05.600 of the artificial intelligence applications come in right now. 00:04:05.880 --> 00:04:08.880 Because ultimately what this will lead to is 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.600 significant productivity benefits, which can then be invested back. 00:04:13.040 --> 00:04:17.520 Right, because these organisations have got distinct opportunities 00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:23.240 to invest for growth, which is something not every company in the UK has. 00:04:24.280 --> 00:04:27.800 Arjun, you work in the sector and you speak to our clients 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.040 every day about some of the challenges and opportunities. 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:33.360 Looking to the future, 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.480 are you broadly optimistic about UK manufacturing 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.240 or do you think there's some major challenges to overcome? 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:41.640 So I'm cautiously optimistic. 00:04:41.640 --> 00:04:45.080 I think again, the UK has managed to keep 00:04:45.960 --> 00:04:48.080 a healthy manufacturing base 00:04:48.080 --> 00:04:51.960 despite a lot of doomsaying in the past. 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:55.520 However, there are definitely 00:04:55.520 --> 00:04:59.160 structural fixes that need to come into place. 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.600 For example, the energy prices in the UK are unsustainably high. 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.680 You cannot have heavy industry for extended periods of time at these prices. 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.000 We also, I think, are 00:05:14.520 --> 00:05:17.520 behind the curve in terms of, 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.880 the skilling of people 00:05:20.880 --> 00:05:24.800 to get into certain, manufacturing jobs. 00:05:24.840 --> 00:05:27.960 I think other countries are 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:32.040 approaching that in a much more scientific way. 00:05:32.320 --> 00:05:35.280 But overall, I think I'm cautiously optimistic 00:05:35.280 --> 00:05:38.280 that there are enough good companies here. 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.760 And enough good high-end 00:05:41.760 --> 00:05:44.760 manufacturing jobs here that, 00:05:45.520 --> 00:05:46.960 can lead the world in the future. 00:05:46.960 --> 00:05:49.040 Arjun, it's been really great to hear your perspectives 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.960 on the UK manufacturing sector. 00:05:50.960 --> 00:05:54.400 If you're interested in learning more about manufacturing productivity 00:05:54.400 --> 00:05:57.400 and productivity across other major UK sectors, 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.680 check out the Centre for Growth’s report, The Productivity Frontier.