WEBVTT 00:00:00.083 --> 00:00:00.959 Hi, I'm Catharina. 00:00:00.959 --> 00:00:01.668 I'm here with Dennis today. 00:00:01.668 --> 00:00:04.337 We're going to talk about a very exciting new scale-up, 00:00:04.337 --> 00:00:06.673 RE&UP, and the opportunities of circularity. 00:00:06.840 --> 00:00:09.175 Hi, Dennis, thank you so much for joining me today. 00:00:09.342 --> 00:00:10.802 Thanks for having me. 00:00:10.802 --> 00:00:14.139 Dennis, we have heard so much the last days and during Climate 00:00:14.139 --> 00:00:17.767 Week about this opportunity of circularity and scaling that globally. 00:00:18.101 --> 00:00:21.479 As a European company, what is your plan to take advantage of 00:00:21.479 --> 00:00:22.772 that global opportunity? 00:00:23.398 --> 00:00:27.068 As a European company, we obviously get a lot of news, you 00:00:27.068 --> 00:00:30.530 know, about the need for circularity, especially in the 00:00:30.530 --> 00:00:31.406 textile space. 00:00:31.406 --> 00:00:36.619 And we've been building a circular business model in our 00:00:36.619 --> 00:00:42.292 factories that is now operating for, you know, several years. 00:00:43.585 --> 00:00:47.839 The end product is proven to be able to use in the fashion 00:00:47.839 --> 00:00:52.552 industry, where the requirements are very high, and we are ready 00:00:52.552 --> 00:00:53.470 to scale now. 00:00:53.928 --> 00:00:57.682 And in order to be able to tackle the waste problem in 00:00:57.682 --> 00:01:01.978 Europe, we are in very advanced stage now to start scaling and 00:01:01.978 --> 00:01:06.274 building factories in Europe to be able to actually handle the 00:01:06.274 --> 00:01:07.275 domestic waste. 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:09.110 And after Europe, what are your next plans? 00:01:09.194 --> 00:01:12.947 We have concrete plans moving into Middle East, Asia, and, of 00:01:12.947 --> 00:01:14.783 course, United States as well. 00:01:15.658 --> 00:01:20.330 Obviously, you know, we need to really make an impact and the 00:01:20.330 --> 00:01:24.375 waste problem in the textile space is amazingly big. 00:01:25.126 --> 00:01:28.171 So, in order to be able to really address that problem, you 00:01:28.171 --> 00:01:31.257 really need to scale, and you need to scale fast. Because if 00:01:31.257 --> 00:01:34.469 we don't do anything today, the problems will just accumulate, 00:01:34.469 --> 00:01:36.262 they will be much bigger later on. 00:01:36.262 --> 00:01:40.600 So our intention is to scale way beyond the million tons, you 00:01:40.600 --> 00:01:44.771 know, of textile waste to be handled, and we can do that in 00:01:44.771 --> 00:01:46.523 many different locations. 00:01:46.981 --> 00:01:49.567 What do you think is the key success factor of RE&UP? 00:01:49.567 --> 00:01:52.862 What really makes you one of the companies at the forefront of 00:01:52.862 --> 00:01:54.447 textile- to-textile recycling? 00:01:54.864 --> 00:01:58.910 I wasn't around at the time, but the founding company and the 00:01:58.910 --> 00:02:03.081 shareholder of RE&UP, is a textile conglomerate and we are 00:02:03.081 --> 00:02:06.042 celebrating our 120th anniversary this year. 00:02:06.334 --> 00:02:09.129 We were born in a textile environment having all the 00:02:09.129 --> 00:02:12.465 knowledge of what is needed in the textile industry to produce 00:02:12.465 --> 00:02:15.718 the right product in terms of quality and pricing to be used 00:02:15.718 --> 00:02:17.846 again in the textile industry at scale. 00:02:17.846 --> 00:02:20.598 And I think that makes that makes a tremendous difference. 00:02:21.391 --> 00:02:23.184 You know, we know what we're talking about. 00:02:23.268 --> 00:02:28.064 We use actually our textile engineers that were dealing with 00:02:28.064 --> 00:02:32.485 yarns and fabrics to start developing processes that can 00:02:32.485 --> 00:02:38.408 deliver the right end product in terms of textile-to-textile recycling. 00:02:39.242 --> 00:02:43.037 The other big advantage is what we did is we started to find 00:02:43.037 --> 00:02:46.749 ways how to use post-consumer waste because this is really 00:02:46.749 --> 00:02:48.042 where the problem is. 00:02:48.668 --> 00:02:52.422 So we are able to handle blends of materials, colored materials 00:02:52.422 --> 00:02:55.800 and turn them into white, near-virgin materials that can 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:58.136 really be used in the textile industry. 00:02:58.136 --> 00:03:00.805 Again, I think these two factors-- really know what we 00:03:00.805 --> 00:03:04.184 talk about and really addressing the real problem in the industry- 00:03:04.767 --> 00:03:06.686 that's what makes us, you know, who we are. 00:03:07.353 --> 00:03:08.146 It's incredible. 00:03:08.229 --> 00:03:11.232 And I think the RE&UP story has gotten a lot of positive 00:03:11.232 --> 00:03:14.277 feedback generally throughout the last months and years, but 00:03:14.277 --> 00:03:17.530 also throughout the last days here in New York at Climate Week. 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:19.824 What are you going to take away from this week? 00:03:19.824 --> 00:03:22.702 What are you going to take home from Climate Week, and what will 00:03:22.702 --> 00:03:24.204 help you on your journey forward? 00:03:24.287 --> 00:03:24.412 Yeah. 00:03:24.412 --> 00:03:25.747 I want to say something else first. 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:26.206 Sure. 00:03:26.706 --> 00:03:28.374 You know, I mean, you're right. 00:03:28.374 --> 00:03:30.251 We get a lot of attention and. 00:03:30.251 --> 00:03:34.172 in the early days, it almost sounded too good to be true. 00:03:35.673 --> 00:03:39.135 But we have factories running now, and a tremendous capacity 00:03:39.135 --> 00:03:41.346 is available to recycle textile waste. 00:03:41.346 --> 00:03:43.598 When you look at the big scale, it's not big enough yet. 00:03:43.890 --> 00:03:46.184 We . . . but we really want to grow our business. 00:03:47.477 --> 00:03:50.021 But the proof is now out there, we can do this. 00:03:50.730 --> 00:03:51.856 So it's not too good to be true. 00:03:51.856 --> 00:03:52.607 It's available. 00:03:52.607 --> 00:03:54.734 And I think New York is a fantastic city. 00:03:55.151 --> 00:03:57.612 There are great people here today, like-minded people. 00:03:57.612 --> 00:04:01.032 And what I understand is that from all the conversations that 00:04:01.032 --> 00:04:04.369 I attended and the people that I met, people are looking for 00:04:04.369 --> 00:04:07.830 action because there's been a lot of talks, but we really need 00:04:07.830 --> 00:04:11.584 to scale this industry now so that we can really make it circular. 00:04:12.210 --> 00:04:13.419 And we are about action. 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:14.754 So that's really what I like. 00:04:15.171 --> 00:04:18.549 What I will take home is networking opportunities. 00:04:18.549 --> 00:04:21.386 So there's a lot of great people that we meet, that we can 00:04:21.386 --> 00:04:24.222 collaborate with because we can't obviously do this alone. 00:04:24.222 --> 00:04:25.181 We need to do this together. 00:04:25.181 --> 00:04:27.225 It's a circular economy that we are dealing with. 00:04:27.225 --> 00:04:31.854 So that, and I think maybe the most important thing is that we 00:04:31.854 --> 00:04:35.608 also here to educate people because people need to 00:04:35.608 --> 00:04:40.029 understand what is actually possible in order to brainstorm 00:04:40.029 --> 00:04:42.782 about how we can scale this further. 00:04:42.782 --> 00:04:45.451 And there are a lot of unknowns still. 00:04:45.785 --> 00:04:49.622 And I think we are here to explain to the private sector, 00:04:49.622 --> 00:04:52.750 but also to the governments, what is possible. 00:04:53.334 --> 00:04:56.004 And from there, we can design models in order to make it 00:04:56.004 --> 00:04:58.214 actually work and scale this business further. 00:04:59.340 --> 00:05:00.133 Thanks, Dennis. 00:05:00.466 --> 00:05:01.384 Any final thoughts? 00:05:01.801 --> 00:05:04.262 Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's hard work. 00:05:05.388 --> 00:05:07.265 In order to do this very quickly, 00:05:08.266 --> 00:05:12.186 it requires a lot of dedication and a lot of networking. 00:05:13.313 --> 00:05:16.357 We need to reach out to many different people, but we need to 00:05:16.357 --> 00:05:18.026 focus a lot on execution as well. 00:05:18.026 --> 00:05:20.820 So we have a fantastic partnership with BCG, Boston 00:05:20.820 --> 00:05:21.779 Consulting Group. 00:05:22.697 --> 00:05:25.491 You know, there's a core team now that is working, you know, 00:05:25.491 --> 00:05:28.578 fully and dedicated with RE&UP in order to make this possible. 00:05:28.578 --> 00:05:32.373 It's a door opener, but also on the execution side, you know, a 00:05:32.373 --> 00:05:33.291 fantastic help. 00:05:33.333 --> 00:05:34.625 Well, thank you very much, Dennis. 00:05:34.625 --> 00:05:37.086 We're very much looking to the next steps together as well. 00:05:37.670 --> 00:05:38.212 Thank you.