WEBVTT 00:00:00.041 --> 00:00:02.293 Always have an outside-in mindset. 00:00:02.293 --> 00:00:05.088 Complacency is the killer of every great company. 00:00:05.088 --> 00:00:09.175 The moment you become complacent, hubris starts to set in, and that's 00:00:09.175 --> 00:00:14.055 when you start to decline. 00:00:14.139 --> 00:00:15.098 Good morning, Christoph. 00:00:15.098 --> 00:00:17.308 Adena, it's great to see you. It's great to have you here. 00:00:17.308 --> 00:00:18.685 Thanks for joining us. 00:00:18.685 --> 00:00:21.688 It is so great to be at NASDAQ headquarters. 00:00:21.688 --> 00:00:23.565 The atmosphere is just electric. 00:00:23.565 --> 00:00:25.191 We are right on Times Square. 00:00:25.191 --> 00:00:27.652 There are several client events happening. 00:00:27.652 --> 00:00:29.863 There's music. There's just so much energy. 00:00:29.863 --> 00:00:31.114 Is it always like this? 00:00:31.114 --> 00:00:33.074 It is very consistently like this. 00:00:33.074 --> 00:00:35.326 It's one of my favorite things about being here. 00:00:35.326 --> 00:00:36.953 It's just hugely energizing. 00:00:36.953 --> 00:00:39.456 It's infectious. I love it. So great. Thank you. 00:00:39.456 --> 00:00:46.129 Now, Nasdaq is such an iconic company, an iconic brand in the financial world. 00:00:46.254 --> 00:00:49.507 Tell us something about Nasdaq that people do not know. 00:00:49.549 --> 00:00:51.968 We are a great market operator and we're really, 00:00:51.968 --> 00:00:55.597 really proud of that foundation as we've grown and expanded our business. 00:00:55.597 --> 00:00:59.142 So we've really focused on how do we partner with our clients 00:00:59.225 --> 00:01:02.979 to be a great provider of technology solutions that help them 00:01:02.979 --> 00:01:07.567 navigate the markets more effectively and really bring as much integrity, 00:01:07.567 --> 00:01:10.570 liquidity and transparency into the industry as possible. 00:01:10.653 --> 00:01:12.906 And those are the foundations of being a market. 00:01:12.906 --> 00:01:17.160 But now as a software provider and a truly scale software provider to the industry, 00:01:17.368 --> 00:01:21.164 we really have followed those three key themes as we've expanded our presence. 00:01:21.331 --> 00:01:25.627 We both started our careers at our companies as summer interns 00:01:25.627 --> 00:01:26.836 in the nineties. 00:01:26.836 --> 00:01:29.506 Then we joined permanently and we've become CEOs. 00:01:29.506 --> 00:01:31.716 There's no success without challenge. 00:01:31.716 --> 00:01:36.638 Tell us about a moment of truth that you had to navigate as a leader. 00:01:36.805 --> 00:01:38.681 One of the things that we really have focused 00:01:38.681 --> 00:01:42.519 on during my tenure as CEO is modernizing markets. 00:01:42.685 --> 00:01:44.104 The moment of truth for us 00:01:44.104 --> 00:01:48.108 was the decision to move our market infrastructure technology to cloud. 00:01:48.191 --> 00:01:51.236 That was a very big decision for our company, 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.115 but also recognizing that we don't just provide technology for our own markets, 00:01:55.115 --> 00:01:58.368 but we provide technology for 130 other markets around the world. 00:01:58.368 --> 00:02:03.206 So to make a determination to rewrite the entire trade lifecycle technology 00:02:03.248 --> 00:02:07.377 cloud and to move our markets to the cloud was a huge moment of truth 00:02:07.377 --> 00:02:08.628 for our organization. 00:02:08.628 --> 00:02:09.712 It's harder 00:02:09.712 --> 00:02:13.424 to transform a successful company than it is to turn around a failing one. 00:02:13.675 --> 00:02:15.343 You had been in role for a number of years. 00:02:15.343 --> 00:02:19.222 Everything was going perfectly fine and you came to your team 00:02:19.222 --> 00:02:22.517 and pitched this idea of a big kind of move into the cloud. 00:02:22.725 --> 00:02:25.019 How did your team react? 00:02:25.019 --> 00:02:27.021 The first thing is you've got to get the employees on board 00:02:27.021 --> 00:02:30.024 and you've got to get them believing the future. 00:02:30.108 --> 00:02:33.444 They've got to understand that technology is an unstoppable force. 00:02:33.486 --> 00:02:37.448 Cloud is the future of technology, and it will underpin everything in the future. 00:02:37.448 --> 00:02:41.452 So therefore, if we don't start moving, we will fall behind. 00:02:41.536 --> 00:02:44.372 You've got to kind of create that sense of urgency. 00:02:44.372 --> 00:02:46.124 The second is then you have to educate them, 00:02:46.124 --> 00:02:49.335 make sure they understand the technology deeply so that they start 00:02:49.335 --> 00:02:52.338 to gain experience with it and they're not afraid of it. 00:02:52.505 --> 00:02:55.508 The third thing is then they have to be able to talk about it 00:02:55.633 --> 00:03:00.013 with an educated voice, and then you start going out and talking to clients. 00:03:00.054 --> 00:03:01.639 Yeah, it was super interesting 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.561 to see how quickly the mindset shifted once they realized what was possible. 00:03:06.644 --> 00:03:09.814 And did you have your moment as a leader where you thought, Well, 00:03:09.898 --> 00:03:12.650 'I'm not sure this is moving at the right pace. 00:03:12.650 --> 00:03:15.320 I'm not sure people are really fully aligned behind the vision. 00:03:15.320 --> 00:03:18.323 I'm not sure I have the right talent to get this done.' 00:03:18.489 --> 00:03:20.950 I'm sure they must have seen some bumps. yeah. 00:03:20.950 --> 00:03:22.535 All of those things. 00:03:22.619 --> 00:03:23.411 So, first of all, 00:03:23.411 --> 00:03:26.414 as you know, with CEOs, nothing ever moves fast enough. 00:03:26.581 --> 00:03:29.626 Putting those plans in place and being very structured 00:03:29.626 --> 00:03:31.711 About how everything was going to be built. 00:03:31.711 --> 00:03:35.131 We had biweekly meetings internally with the core team 00:03:35.131 --> 00:03:38.176 and then we actually had monthly meetings with a broader set of people, 00:03:38.426 --> 00:03:39.469 about 100 people, 00:03:39.469 --> 00:03:40.845 to kind of bring them along 00:03:40.845 --> 00:03:43.848 the educational curve-- to show them and showcase new capabilities 00:03:43.848 --> 00:03:47.852 we were building to actually teach them tech, the technology that underpins it. 00:03:48.061 --> 00:03:52.440 All of those things were super important to gaining the confidence of the team, 00:03:52.607 --> 00:03:55.693 gaining my confidence that this is actually moving all of that 00:03:55.693 --> 00:03:56.402 in the right direction. 00:03:56.402 --> 00:03:59.197 And absolutely we had naysayers along the way. Absolutely. 00:03:59.197 --> 00:04:03.159 So you have to listen very carefully to those naysayers. 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.246 They probably bring some credible elements to their arguments, 00:04:06.454 --> 00:04:09.249 but you can't let that be the reason why it doesn't progress. 00:04:09.249 --> 00:04:12.043 So all of that was underneath the surface of it. 00:04:12.043 --> 00:04:15.338 Take me to the moment where you flipped the switch. 00:04:15.421 --> 00:04:19.634 So there were actually two moments that we really, really defined the strategy. 00:04:19.634 --> 00:04:24.264 One was when I stood up in front of tens of thousands of people at 00:04:24.347 --> 00:04:27.517 Reinvent and announced that we were going to be moving our first market 00:04:27.517 --> 00:04:29.435 to cloud in 12 months. 00:04:29.435 --> 00:04:31.312 That was a moment of truth because 00:04:31.312 --> 00:04:35.066 I had to basically put ourselves out there and I had the technology team 00:04:35.108 --> 00:04:37.694 that was going to be building it literally in the front, 00:04:37.694 --> 00:04:41.072 watching, clapping, cheering, which was amazing, 00:04:41.072 --> 00:04:44.659 because then they were there along with me as I was announcing this to the world. 00:04:44.742 --> 00:04:47.120 The second moment of truth, of course, was the day 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:50.331 the market went live, and it was one of our options markets. 00:04:50.331 --> 00:04:54.711 We actually generate billions of messages a day in each of our options markets. 00:04:54.794 --> 00:04:57.505 So to see it operate so flawlessly, in fact, 00:04:57.505 --> 00:05:00.508 with improved latency was just an a great moment of truth. 00:05:00.508 --> 00:05:04.429 Usually Nasdaq and basically every big tech company is listed on NASDAQ. 00:05:04.429 --> 00:05:08.474 And talk about AI and GenAI as the big next wave of stuff that's coming. 00:05:08.474 --> 00:05:12.729 How do you feel about that outlook and what's coming next for Nasdaq? 00:05:12.770 --> 00:05:16.983 Every single year since I became CEO, we're reunderwriting those technologies 00:05:16.983 --> 00:05:17.608 that we believe 00:05:17.608 --> 00:05:22.280 will be truly foundational and formational toward, the future of our industry. 00:05:22.363 --> 00:05:25.199 But GenAI came onto the scene superfast 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.911 and it was amazing at how it just captured the imagination of everyone. 00:05:28.911 --> 00:05:33.458 And we are kind of on that offensive track now because of the technology coming in. 00:05:33.666 --> 00:05:36.377 But our data was already in a very modern state 00:05:36.377 --> 00:05:38.588 and it's also accelerated our conversations 00:05:38.588 --> 00:05:41.799 with our tech clients, certainly as they realize 00:05:41.799 --> 00:05:44.802 that the future of technology is unlocking the power of their data, 00:05:44.969 --> 00:05:47.305 how do they make sure that their positioned To be able to do that? 00:05:47.305 --> 00:05:49.974 And it's completely accelerating our conversations 00:05:49.974 --> 00:05:52.352 on moving their markets to cloud infrastructure. 00:05:52.352 --> 00:05:56.856 And as I speak with many CEOs around the world, we are at an all time peak 00:05:56.939 --> 00:06:00.860 in terms of how many of them say that technology questions in AI and GENAI 00:06:00.860 --> 00:06:02.945 are kind of their moment of truth. 00:06:02.945 --> 00:06:06.282 They know it's going to be a fundamental change for their industry 00:06:06.282 --> 00:06:09.202 and for their business, but then they struggle how to tackle it. 00:06:09.202 --> 00:06:12.872 So I do think we are at the highest index that we've ever had. 00:06:12.955 --> 00:06:15.625 You have successfully steered through that with the big cloud 00:06:15.625 --> 00:06:16.876 transformation for Nasdaq. 00:06:16.876 --> 00:06:21.756 How has that shaped you as a leader and what are some takeaways and wisdom 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:22.924 you could share? 00:06:22.924 --> 00:06:25.468 Well, I think, first of all, as a CEO, you 00:06:25.468 --> 00:06:29.305 sometimes can have a vision and you see where you want to go. 00:06:29.347 --> 00:06:32.016 But at the end of the day, the most important thing you can do 00:06:32.016 --> 00:06:35.937 is take a little time upfront to bring the core team along with you. 00:06:36.020 --> 00:06:39.065 And I've learned that actually from some of the people who work for me. 00:06:39.065 --> 00:06:41.776 We have one incredible leader inside of Nasdaq 00:06:41.776 --> 00:06:45.613 who takes a little more time upfront to really overcommunicate. 00:06:45.780 --> 00:06:48.825 What change is coming, why we're doing it, all the things 00:06:48.825 --> 00:06:51.786 that really kind of underpin the decision. 00:06:51.786 --> 00:06:54.705 Because once you get everyone on board, you've run a lot faster. 00:06:54.705 --> 00:06:59.585 So I think that that's a key part of gaining that internal momentum 00:06:59.669 --> 00:07:03.589 is by making sure that you explain why you're doing things, 00:07:03.673 --> 00:07:07.301 make sure you educate them on the technology so they can live 00:07:07.301 --> 00:07:11.347 and breathe it and make it so that they get as excited as you are 00:07:11.431 --> 00:07:13.599 to take the journey. Because you want to make sure 00:07:13.599 --> 00:07:16.102 that you're doing it in a way that still mitigates risk. 00:07:16.102 --> 00:07:18.020 So that was, I would say, the biggest lesson. 00:07:18.020 --> 00:07:22.024 The second thing is having an internal mechanism for educating 00:07:22.108 --> 00:07:24.652 and keeping the right people in the right seats. 00:07:24.652 --> 00:07:28.906 You know, if you're a growth company, it's a natural attractor of talent. 00:07:28.990 --> 00:07:32.535 So if you can kind of create that growth mindset and get the momentum going, 00:07:32.535 --> 00:07:34.495 it actually becomes self-fulfilling over time. 00:07:34.495 --> 00:07:38.207 And then the third thing is always have an outside-in mindset. 00:07:38.249 --> 00:07:40.001 The moment you become complacent, 00:07:40.001 --> 00:07:43.504 hubris starts to set in and that's when you start to decline. 00:07:43.504 --> 00:07:47.592 And we have to transform them all the time to be durable, lasting companies. 00:07:47.758 --> 00:07:51.512 So that need to be always on the forefront of what's next. 00:07:51.721 --> 00:07:55.391 Bringing that outside-in perspective is critical in that process. 00:07:55.475 --> 00:07:58.144 Making sure you never get overly 00:07:58.144 --> 00:08:01.147 comfortable and confident in your capabilities is actually 00:08:01.397 --> 00:08:02.982 a quintessential part of Nasdaq. 00:08:02.982 --> 00:08:04.942 We were born as a disruptor. 00:08:04.942 --> 00:08:05.902 And we want to continue 00:08:05.902 --> 00:08:09.947 to take that culture and live and breathe that each and every day. 00:08:10.031 --> 00:08:11.282 Well, wonderful. 00:08:11.282 --> 00:08:13.701 And it is so energizing to be here 00:08:13.701 --> 00:08:14.827 At Nasdaq headquarters. 00:08:14.827 --> 00:08:16.746 It is even more inspiring to hear from you. 00:08:16.746 --> 00:08:19.373 And thank you so much for your time. 00:08:19.373 --> 00:08:20.583 Thanks, Christoph. It was great talking to you today.